Do animal have soul?

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Defee's post from other thread "Pro Choice vs Pro Life".

What im saying is that you people seem to think all animals, all
insects, sealife, etc have souls, right?
Well, you must feel guilty if you eat the animals, fish
etc. since you think they have "souls"...
Do you think all cats and dogs go to heaven?
lol!
This is sooo weird.
There is nothing in the Bible supports this that animals
have "souls"....
my hubby is laughing so hard at this...............
oh well...it is totally embarrassing...............
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Really?
According to the Bible, animals have souls.
They Shall Not Hurt Or Destroy - Chapter 8 - Animals Have Souls - The Writings of Vasu S. Murti: Human Rights - Social Justice - Animal Rights - Peace - Love - Compassion - Kindness - Gentleness - Religion - Soul - Spirit - Knowledge - Wisdom - Polit

I suggest you and your hubby to read those book.
Amazon.ca: The Souls of Animals: Books: Tom Regan,Gary A. Kowalski,Art Wolfe

I find really sad that some people did not show very much compassion towards animals and don't bother to focus animals who do have mind, feeling and suffering... :(

http://www.alldeaf.com/785792-post395.html
 
Accord Webexploxer's post at Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice thread.
In back of B.C., they killed many sheeps and cows for blood to worship their God. That's why some people in B.C. had no mortal to understand our animals' feelings. Perhaps, the Bible does not want to bring it up about the animals. (I thought that it has to be in the Bible, but you said that it is not there.) Does your cats or dogs love you? Are they soul? Isn't that interesting? This has nothing to do with Pro-Life and Pro-Choice. We need focus on our people's issue. Good try!
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Yes, that's right, family pets know you and love you because they do have feeling and mind.

Yes I aware from the bible that the people sarcrife animals to worship God.


http://www.alldeaf.com/785799-post396.html
 
vrsterp's post

It doesn't matter if they have souls. That's all dependent on your beliefs. I don't think people have souls, so that's irrelevant. Anyone who has pets knows animals have personalities & they feel pain.
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http://www.alldeaf.com/785908-post406.html

:gpost:

I have 4 cats and know their personality well and know their movement, feeling, mind and suffering...
 
What do you think of this. Your POV is welcome, also agree to disagree welcome as well.

Come and discuss... :thumb:
 
To all ur posts--

I'm netural -- because there are many different stories about animals' souls so I really not know if they actually do have souls. I however believe they DO have feelings and spirits inside. All I know. I just dont understand why they treat animals like a trash sometimes. :/

My simple belifs:
* Animals have feelings & souls
* haves personality, behaviors, etc
* deverse a respect from others

So, I believe they should have some love from others.. :D

My disagreement about:
* Humans are animals (I never label myself human)
* It will be animals first; because they are more important than children if they choice their pets once all one animal and one child are in any danger sautition. (what's about a baby has just born and a several days old? it's just annoying me cos i feel many people look down on low children, epscially babies..)

Dont get me wrong. I do love my deaf cat!!! :D :D
i'll check on here later. get to go, for my work. :)
 
Like I said on other thread that there are arguments about either animals have soul or not. But soul and spirit is different, not the same. So, the difference btwn human and animal is spirit. Animal does not have spirit, which is, when animal dies, but the problem is about soul. Soul last forever. Animal dies, and it ends, but human dies, will have life afterward through out eternity. So there are argumentive in this issues. Animals does have feelings and etc. But as level goes, human is over the animals, but must treating animals properly. But as for food chain goes, that what animal is about. Like this, is it wrong for lion killed antelope? Meat eater animals is part of their nature. Humans.... similar, as the word killing the animals is based on how you view it. Like dogs and cats, that's part of pets. Like Esau went out hunting. So it is dependable about the soul issues. To me, if soul that last forever, then I have a problem believe if animals will, bec animals does not have choices like human does. Can't press charges against lions for killing antelope. :giggle:
 
Ok, christlovedeaf ... my question is : How do you explain that Jesus will ride on pure and white Horse and all of His Armies will follow Him on their horses ? ( See Rev. 19:11-16 )

Will there be other animals in Heaven such as horses ? I am not quite sure if, I can understand it very clear. Reba is more than welcome to explain this as well. :)
 
As I see, some believe its symbolic and some believe that how Jesus ride on is not the same horse as here on earth. We couldn't picture it. It's like lion sleep with the lamb is more as symbolic of peace.
 
Yes I believe animals do have souls and spirits. They come from God's. It would be so bored if there is no animals or butterfly in heaven. also I do believe all living things belong to God alike trees, flowers, grass and go on.

P.S. my dead cat is still with me, I see her around here somtime.
 
Bored? In Heaven? Teehee, no, in Heaven will never be bored, bec Heaven does not have energy drained or anything like that. It is not the same we are now. And far more beautiful than human can think or see.
 
Well, Animal lovers who have loving relationship with animals, know animal´s feeling and mind well. That´s how they know their animal well like what I know my 4 cats well.

I know Sussi, my soon to be 21 years old cat´s personliaty too well because I have her for almost 21 years to know her way well and know what she want to tell me and share her feeling, jealous, fear, aggressive, bad mood, don´t like ...etc. etc.

Kim, my 2nd cat has different personality as Sussi but I know her well and her 2 daughters Flecky & Blacky as well. I focus their daughters´s feeling and mind...

I know 4 cats well and don´t beleive that they have no soul.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Defee's post from other thread "Pro Choice vs Pro Life".





Really?
According to the Bible, animals have souls.
They Shall Not Hurt Or Destroy - Chapter 8 - Animals Have Souls - The Writings of Vasu S. Murti: Human Rights - Social Justice - Animal Rights - Peace - Love - Compassion - Kindness - Gentleness - Religion - Soul - Spirit - Knowledge - Wisdom - Polit

I suggest you and your hubby to read those book.
Amazon.ca: The Souls of Animals: Books: Tom Regan,Gary A. Kowalski,Art Wolfe

I find really sad that some people did not show very much compassion towards animals and don't bother to focus animals who do have mind, feeling and suffering... :(

http://www.alldeaf.com/785792-post395.html
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Its NOT from the Bible at all. Its a book "The writings of Vasu Murti" Its not a real Bible.
so nice try. It may say include verses but it is not in the Bible..it is
just stuff he made up. These people are animal right activits.
I still dont find anything in the traditional bible that supports that
animals have souls. (Do you, Reba???)

Of course, i have compassion for animals..I do love animals. I have a dog,
remember. I treat him with love and respect. I know all pets have feelings,
and all. We have rabbits all over our yard and we leave them alone. we
love watching them! We also have chipmunks, squirrels..
God put cows, pigs, chickens, fish, etc for us to eat, otherwise we would
starve to death. You know that.
 
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It depends on the definition of the word "soul." Everyone will interpret this word differently, and should not be challenged to scrutiny. I interpret the word as something that is the core of somebody's personality; its thoughts, its feelings, its actions, etc... It is what animates a human being or an animal. I do not believe in the heaven aspect of the Christianity, but rather more on this Earth as our "paradise" to go through our trials, sufferings and victories. When a "soul" leaves a physcial entity, I believe it gets "reborn" into a new physical entity, and some of the personality remains in the soul. When we all are able to truly live in harmony and peace without temptations, greediness, desires, etc, then we attain the true paradise.
 
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tired of debating about stupid animals...

We are ONE of animals in the earth. We as animals being does not mean we are worthless. All of the animals are worth. There is no way for spiders to act like dog, there is no way for birds to act like fish, there is no way for elphant to act like mouse, there is no way for rabbit to act like turtle, there is no way for humans to act any of other animals, just like other animals have no way to act like each other. Figure that out in your mind.
 
Ouch, this debate gave me a worst headache. :pissed:
 
Mann_K05 said:
To all ur posts--

I'm netural -- because there are many different stories about animals' souls so I really not know if they actually do have souls. I however believe they DO have feelings and spirits inside. All I know. I just dont understand why they treat animals like a trash sometimes. :/

My simple belifs:
* Animals have feelings & souls
* haves personality, behaviors, etc
* deverse a respect from others

So, I believe they should have some love from others.. :D

My disagreement about:
* Humans are animals (I never label myself human)
* It will be animals first; because they are more important than children if they choice their pets once all one animal and one child are in any danger sautition. (what's about a baby has just born and a several days old? it's just annoying me cos i feel many people look down on low children, epscially babies..)

Dont get me wrong. I do love my deaf cat!!! :D :D
i'll check on here later. get to go, for my work. :)
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Correction: "Humans are animals (I never label myself as *animal*)"
Correction: "Animals *can* be..."

My mistakes. XD
 
PuyoPiyo said:
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tired of debating about stupid animals...

We are ONE of animals in the earth. We as animals being does not mean we are worthless. All of the animals are worth. There is no way for spiders to act like dog, there is no way for birds to act like fish, there is no way for elphant to act like mouse, there is no way for rabbit to act like turtle, there is no way for humans to act any of other animals, just like other animals have no way to act like each other. Figure that out in your mind.
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:confused: ....*scratchin my head*...

gotta go and eat my BBQ ribs.........
bye........
 
I do believe that animals do have a SOUL.

I can tell if Tahoe is jealous, not feeling good or don't like or etc. For example...Tahoe hates camera...how do I know? She would turn her head to another direction not direct to the camera. So I know she hates having her picture taken! (lately she don't mind cuz of the puppies :) )
 
I believe animals do have a soul. They also have feelings.
 
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