Question about Exchange of Experience with pros/cons

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I know I created a thread last year "Exchange of View/Discussion"
http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debate...discussion.html?highlight=Exchange+discussion

I create a new thread "Exchange of Experience with pros/cons"...

Exchange of experience?

Why do we have any forums for?

Of course this forum is for share/collect experiences, feedback, tips, debate with agree/disagree in postive/polite way, etc. Right?

What's the wrong with that exchange of experience with cons/pros?

I'm bit disappointed to see some good threads are out of hand, then lock because the people took other's posts personal & claimed that it hurt their feeling.

Is it possible to positive without personal insult where the people express their opinion/share their experiences with us when we disagree with them?

Is it possible to debate without personal insult?

I'm sad that some people have wrong thought about others when they see different view as them?

Why can't the people use common sense when there're debate with agree/disagree - share with feedback of experiences?

I beleive in health debate with cons/pros. Some threads do hurt my feeling but I do not take their posts personal because I know they express their own feeling/opinion in general way... I use common sense to open my mind to see the sense what they have their view which is good for me because it's good for me to know what good or bad... I accept the pros/cons on any issues and appreciate it very much for their share because some of views wake me up. It's good education for me. I thank them for wake me up...

Sometimes I wonder to myself either they have right to express their feeling/opinion to the public or not?

Bash/insult/disrespect is a different story... This is understandable but exchange of experiences with cons/pros?


I would be appreciate to have your feedback on this.

Lets keep this a discussion, not a flame war please. :thumb:
 
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A simple answer to why this occurs (insults/bashing/etc) is because emotions get involved one way or another. It is very difficult to separate the "head" knowledge from the emotional aspects. If one debates the pros/cons, one is invariably "attacking" one's belief system or knowledge and downward it goes. Personalities play a role as well and some people can rub others the wrong way especially if there is "bad blood" from prior interactions. In this case, no matter how logical the other seems it is still seen in the light of past slights.

All in all, we are talking about people being people the world ever and this is natural as breathing air. It should not be seen as surprising at all.

This is not to say there is no hope as people can have more harmonous discussions. It requires all the parties involved work at that and we know there are "hopeless" cases out there...;)

My 2 cents...
 
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Well sr171soars,

Yes I understand your point. I see that myself, too.

Example of all, I do not intend to hurt anyone feeling, that's because I have different opinion as them. It doesn't mean to bash/insult anyone when I have different opinion as them. When I express something myself without against anyone but the people see it as judgement but I do not see it... ?


All in all, we are talking about people being people the world ever and this is natural as breathing air. It should not be seen as surprising at all.

This is not to say there is no hope as people can have more harmonous discussions. It requires all the parties involved work at that and we know there are "hopeless" cases out there.

Yes, that's right but the people have to learn to limit their feeling when they visit any forums and don't like what they see. They should not put their emotion to public forum because of their bad experience in the past. How could the people know about other's past when they express their feeling or negative their opinion to something... (example abortion.... )

Remember that private and forum should be separate.

Do I make a sense?
 
Tough Break!

IF creator want post their own POV.. That's fine as long creator must prepared themselves and make sure not "GET FEELING HURT QUICKER" anyone who disagree their pov and will come debate..

Just as long creator must understand their pov and cannot change their pov from YOUR POV... compares.. Just be yourself own pov.. don't let anyone critizite you back peroid.. Let them on roll debate...

Just postive vs negivate feedback... Remmy that all here does for forum to forum!

I don't care if they disagree my pov.. let them on roll... as long Just listening and nodding... pure simple thing as long enjoy reading posting and feedback posting too...

If you want attempt bash me via pm... I'll be very happy direct to moderator.. On your call choice! *hmmmm*

Just everyone must learn be firm and open mind communcation! Don't let them judge you... Just magic word "Ingore button".
If you feel angry... Don't type awful rude remarks..
(Actually, I lose my marble rarely) not even bother at all...

Last time few times, issues the house... went high debate pro vs con feedback that what I'm enjoy their pov... as long remmy Im not let anyone critizite me and expecting anyone always "MR OR MISS OR MRS KNOW IT ALL". Just let them enjoy their pov feedback... Really not necessary attack!

Liebling's wrote: Bash/insult/disrespect is a different story... This is understandable but exchange of experiences with cons/pros?
Extactly, some of ad'ers who jumping and attack.. how can be postive throws and contuine sour or rude comment throwing... Isn't helpful feedback at all.

Enjoy posting!

Liebling... Excellence bring this issues up!!!
 
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Well sr171soars,

Yes I understand your point. I see that myself, too.

Example of all, I do not intend to hurt anyone feeling, that's because I have different opinion as them. It doesn't mean to bash/insult anyone when I have different opinion as them. When I express something myself without against anyone but the people see it as judgement but I do not see it... ?

It is a matter of perception more than anything else. It is very difficult to express more nunances in a written form than face to face. Body language and the ability to quickly "explain" during that give and take helps. You don't have that in writing. Sure, there are emoticons to assist but it still is harder to fathom exactly where the other is coming from without more information. I guess the bottomline is that people aren't patient, easily wear their "emotions" on their sleeve (it is safer to do so via the internet than in person), often see disagreements as attacks on them (even it is not intended to be that).

Yes, that's right but the people have to learn to limit their feeling when they visit any forums and don't like what they see. They should not put their emotion to public forum because of their bad experience in the past. How could the people know about other's past when they express their feeling or negative their opinion to something... (example abortion.... )

Remember that private and forum should be separate.

Do I make a sense?

Absolutely. I agree with you but as I said before, people are people the world over. It is very difficult to divorce one feelings on many of these topics. They feel very strongly about whatever it is and it shows up. It makes for a more interesting world to say the least...:D

My philosophy is to live and learn and let it all be like water off a dolphin's back. It makes it easier when I'm in forums and never take it personally even if they attack.
 
:gpost: GalaxyAngel!

IF creator want post their own POV.. That's fine as long creator must prepared themselves and make sure not "GET FEELING HURT QUICKER" anyone who disagree their pov and will come debate..

Yes, if the person who create a thread then she/he have to make positive cons/pros feedback, suggestion, tips, etc.

Just as long creator must understand their pov and cannot change their pov from YOUR POV... compares.. Just be yourself own pov.. don't let anyone critizite you back peroid.. Let them on roll debate...

Just postive vs negivate feedback... Remmy that all here does for forum to forum!

Exactly, I can't change for everyone but myself. I stand what I think and feeling.

I don't care if they disagree my pov.. let them on roll... as long Just listening and nodding... pure simple thing as long enjoy reading posting and feedback posting too...

Yes I has no problem to have anyone to disagree with me... I need their reasons why they disagree with me... It's good education for me... Its about open mind and see the sense. I might be wrong or they might be right.

If you want attempt bash me via pm... I'll be very happy direct to moderator.. On your call choice! *hmmmm*

Logical yes, if I get bash/insult bash PM then forward them to Admin. & Mod.(s) for their view. The problem to solve is between me and member, not Admin. & Mod.(s).

Last time few times, issues the house... went high debate pro vs con feedback that what I'm enjoy their pov... as long remmy Im not let anyone critizite me and expecting anyone always "MR OR MISS OR MRS KNOW IT ALL". Just let them enjoy their pov feedback... Really not necessary attack

Me too, I'm interesting to see cons/pros to any negative/positive posts... which is good education for me.

Extactly, some of ad'ers who jumping and attack.. how can be postive throws and contuine sour or rude comment throwing... Isn't helpful feedback at all.

*nodding sadly* :(

Enjoy posting!

Liebling... Excellence bring this issues up!!!

:ty:
 
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