The Pharisees line up to cast their stones at gay partners

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This past Tuesday in Jacksonville, the Florida Baptist Convention voted to support a state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

The Baptists want the Florida Constitution to state that marriage is "the union between a man and a woman and is the God-ordained building block of the family and the bedrock of society."

"The church is the voice of morality," declared the sponsor of this resolution, the Rev. Jay Dennis of Lakeland.

The voice of morality!

I have no quarrel with the Baptists being the voice of morality, even though I was raised a Methodist. (Actually, a Wesleyan - so see, I already know how this whole thing is gonna turn out anyway.)

My only question is:

Why just this morality?

Why just this sin?

Why is this now the moral crisis that deserves to be singled out in our Constitution, the civil law of Caesar, so we can create a lesser class of citizens who don't have the same rights of civil contract?

Could it be because this is an alleged "sin" that only Those Kind of People commit, instead of equally serious sins that Decent People (even Baptists) commit every day?

If we are going to start ranking the "sins," marriage between two gay people who love each other and seek a lifelong commitment doesn't even make the Bible's best-known top-10 list.

Sure, homosexuality is called an "abomination." The Bible says so, not too far from where the Bible also says it's okay to stone your headstrong son to death, and that you'd better stay away from menstruating women.

And yes, the topic of homosexuality really freaked out St. Paul, no question. But so did a lot of stuff.

On the other hand, you know what IS right smack in the Ten Commandments?

Adultery.

Adultery! Now, that's a threat to the institution of marriage. You bet.

Half of heterosexual marriages in our society end in divorce. We heterosexuals are doing a lousy job of "defending" marriage. Adultery is a big part of the reason.

So if we're going to rewrite our Constitution to "protect" marriage from sin because it is the "God-ordained bedrock of society," then I would think that adultery would be a much better target.

The Florida Constitution should be amended to say that there can be no marriage licenses for anyone who has ever had sex outside marriage.

But wait, don't stop there.

Adultery is not the only marriage-threatening sin.

There's coveting.

That's in the Ten Commandments, too. Coveting your neighbor's wife can get you in big trouble.

Bearing false witness is one of the Big 10, too, if I recall. Lying is a pretty big threat to marriage.

No legal rights for liars! God created Adam and Eve, not Adam-You-Can't-Believe.

So, you see, there are the sins that the majority of us Decent People commit, such as lying, coveting, failing to keep the Sabbath, worshiping the wrong things...

And then there is the Really Bad Stuff that God hates even more and wants us to punish and fight by rewriting our Constitution.

I don't believe it.

I am just a poor layman, but I do not recall anywhere in the book seeing instructions to rank what we consider to be sins, and to judge only the ones we find in other people.

In fact, irresistibly, Matthew 7:5 keeps coming back to me:

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Of course, Jesus said a lot of other stuff, too. Rich people almost certainly won't go to heaven. They should give away their money. We should turn the other cheek to those who seek to hurt us. We should clothe the naked and feed the poor and house the homeless.

We also should pray in private, without beating our breasts loudly and rending our garments in the streets like hypocrites.

Jesus' words, not mine.

Maybe he meant we were supposed to just pick and choose the parts we liked.

Source: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/14/Columns/The_Pharisees_line_up.shtml



I increased the font size on one of these comments for hypocrites to read and think then reread and rethink. About this comment:

Maybe he meant we were supposed to just pick and choose the parts we liked.

He nailed it beautifully about these hypocrites.
 
Magatsu said:
My only question is:
Why just this morality?
Why just this sin?
All sins are equally wrong to commit. The reason homosexual sin is emphasized is because it goes against biblical type that was established by God. Every time someone in the Bible sins against type, God severely punishes that person.

Here is one example:
Jesus (also called "The Rock" in the Bible) was sacrificed once for all our sins. In other words, the "Rock" was struck (killed) once. Jesus died only once for all our sins. His blood flowed from His body to give us life.

When the Israelites were wandering in the wilderness, they needed water. God told Moses to take his rod and strike the rock, once, for the life-giving water to flow from the rock. Moses obeyed. That was the example to show the people of Israel how their Savior would someday let His body be "struck" (crucified) once, to flow His blood for the people's eternal life.

Later, when the people needed water again, God commanded Moses to just speak to the rock. This was God's example to show that after Jesus' one sacrifice, we only need to pray ("speak") to Him. He does not need to be crucified again. But Moses struck the rock, twice, and that was against God's example (type). Because of his sin, Moses was not allowed to enter the Promise Land. Moses still went to Heaven because he was trusted the Savior, but he was not allowed to enter Israel because he disobeyed God's type. (Numbers 20:7-12)

God also established the type of Jesus' relationship to the Church (not local churches or religions, but meaning the entire body of believers in Christ, past, present, and future). God established that relationship as the Bride (the Church) and the Groom (Jesus), thru establishing the marriage relationship of Adam (the groom) and Eve (the bride). All the New Testament references show Jesus is the Groom, and the Church is His Bride, and that they will someday have the wedding feast. Homosexual relationships go against that type. That is why it is judged more severely by God. It is not just sin against other people, the way lying and stealing is, but it is also sin against God's type.

Why is this now the moral crisis that deserves to be singled out in our Constitution...
Because the homosexual community is now pushing for same-sex marriage. It never was an issue before. No one in the past every expected such an issue.

The preferred way is to pass state laws regulating marriage, rather than a Constitutional amendment. However, the judges have been trying to overturn the will of the people in each state, so that is why the President is proposing an amendment.

The Bible says so, not too far from where the Bible also says it's okay to stone your headstrong son to death...
You are misquoting that passage. It does not say that parents are allowed to stone their son. If you want the details, I will be happy to explain.

...and that you'd better stay away from menstruating women.
That was a law given to the Israelites to keep them pure.

Adultery! Now, that's a threat to the institution of marriage. You bet.
Yes, and God hates adultery. We used to have laws against it in America. The military still does.

No legal rights for liars!
It is against the law to lie under oath or to falsify official documents.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
You notice that the verse doesn't say not to cast out the mote of thy brother's eye. It says, "first" cast out the beam out of thine own eye; "and then" cast out thy brother's.

Of course, Jesus said a lot of other stuff, too. Rich people almost certainly won't go to heaven. They should give away their money.
Misquoting, and out of context again. Jesus told only the rich young ruler that he had to do that. Jesus did not say every rich person had to do that. Abraham was wealthy, and God continued to bless him.

We should turn the other cheek to those who seek to hurt us.
Meaning, to not seek revenge for personal insults. It doesn't mean no self-defense.

We should clothe the naked and feed the poor and house the homeless.
Yes, and Christians do that.

We also should pray in private, without beating our breasts loudly and rending our garments in the streets like hypocrites.
Yes, so? Who is doing that? (I mean, other than the Palestinians at Arafat's funeral.)
 
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