Is it normal.......?

I see nothing wrong that the parents show their nude bodies to their children when the kids are in the bedroom while the parents are dressing or at bathroom. The children are curious what kind of bodies the parents have and questioned is natural but the parents show their kids the limitations when it comes to outside the home. The body is a natural thing and should not be hidden from the children.

My husband and I are very comfortable with our bodies and nudity and don't hide it from our children. Our children didn´t pay attention when they walks in while we´re dressing in the bedroom, wash ourselves, toilet, bath or shower in the bathroom when they want to talk us.

I think it is unnatural for parents to be weirded out by being nude in front of their children at any age because nudity is not a pornography but natural. IMO

But it should never be a shameful thing if they happen to see you naked or a part of your body you don't want seen by them. IMO

But it´s your choice to not let your child see you naked or it must be have good reason why the parents hide their bodies from their children.

Come and share your opinion/discuss with us......

Agree to Disagree are welcome here....

hmm well I remember growing up, I saw my mom nude many times but I was never allowed to see dad nude (it was the other way for my brother). I think I did once by accident. But I don't remember ever seeing both of them walking around or sitting/laying naked. But then I remember later in my early teen years my mom stopped letting us see her naked.
I will probably do the same thing for my children. I will let my daughter(s) see me but not my son(s), except in his first year of life.

linneaelliott said:

hmm well I remember growing up, I saw my mom nude many times but I was never allowed to see dad nude (it was the other way for my brother). I think I did once by accident. But I don't remember ever seeing both of them walking around or sitting/laying naked. But then I remember later in my early teen years my mom stopped letting us see her naked.
I will probably do the same thing for my children. I will let my daughter(s) see me but not my son(s), except in his first year of life.

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Yeah, it's same with my parents, too. I was growing up to see my mother nude many times. My Dad never allow us to see his because we are girls.

Until my mother remarried. I feel uncomfortable and panic when I saw my stepdad nude for a first time when I was 9 years old because I never see like this in my life but I only see my little brother's size. I asked my mother what is this size because stepdad's size is not same as my little brother. That's why I would never hide my body from my sons because I want my sons feel free with no ashamed feeling.

If you teach your child to be ashamed, they will be ashamed, If you teach them to be proud, they will be well adjusted and proud.

Good thread there Liebling.

I had took a bath with my boys with they were younger. They don't really pay much attention to my boobies or anything. Now that my oldest son is grown-up he takes his own shower, But at times my 5 years old would take a bath with me or he would likely take one on his own when I am in the bathroom watching him, to avoid drowning...


I have changed my clothes in front of my boys, when they walked in my bedroom. They are not ashamed or embarrassed and say "omg I am leaving."
They know I am their mother and I gave birth to both of them.

Well, that's depends on whether or not you have a son or a daughter, and also it would be depending on their ages too....

I have no problem if I had a daughter and she has seen me naking, or changing my clothes but I have 3 boys, and there are times my boys do open the bedroom door without knocking first while I am changing my clothes or I just got out of the shower, I could see the looks on my boys' face when they see a their own mother being nude, I do get embarrassed...

My little one is 5 years old, I still take a shower with him and I'm not embarrassed about that part since hes still a little boy but my other two sons are older now, so it would be best if they didn't see their mom being nude anymore and to give her some privacy...

very interesting thread! I have two boys. three and one. I take a bath with them. i have big garden tub that can fit 4 people in there. They are used seeing me naked. they are so small. my oldest asked me what are those. I tell him it is boobies. mommy is different from daddy. he knows. he doesnt care.

when I was growing up I have always seen my mom nude but not my dad, only in his briefs. that's it until i moved away for college. still does not bother me.

naked dad is whole entire different story!

Time will come when boys start to get uncomfy then I will know.

I don't see any good reason for letting children older than babies seeing their parents' naked bodies. What's the point? Everyone should be entitled to privacy.

There is nothing wrong with modesty. Society has too much of the attitude of "letting it all hang out," (even when the "it" that is "hanging out" is not very attractive).

You're right it's not, It can also cause automobile accidents when some people are exposing themselves....

I remember not to long ago when we were driving to my dad's cabin which it's about a couple hours away from where we live, There was a group of girls that were riding in the back of a truck, they were teasing the drivers by pulling their shirts up by showing their breasts, I remember my children being in the back seat, I quickly turned around trying to get their attention so they wouldn't be looking at them, but I suppose it didn't help much....

Some people can be a bit immature when they act like that and it's not really a smart thing to do especially in front of children or when distracting others from paying attention to driving out on the road....

I'm sorry if this is a little bit off topic.....

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I know I did see my dad naked (since there are pictures of me and Dad in bath, playing with toys etc) and I frequently saw my mom naked. They didn't hold any condemnation toward me if I accidently catch either naked. I know they were very free-thinking since they let me running around the house naked all the time (I do have zillion of pictures as my evidence of their sexual revolution within the household...). I am planning on framing all naked pictures of me streaking across the living room/garden/wherever and put them up on a hallway wall so my friends/guests may see my glorifying nudity as they enter my home!

Anyway-- I do still feel embarassed to see my mom naked and vice versa if she walks into my bedroom while I change. I have felt this way since I was developed. I felt it was wrong for my mom to see my breasts or whatnot. I don't care if she didn't feel it was wrong but at the same time I think I was worried that she wouldl find something wrong withmy body so I hid my nudity and steered clearly of it. (She is a nurse so she knows all telltattling signs of something goes wrong!)

I don't have any recollection of my dad being nude (thank goodness).

I know that my brother did shower with his wife and daughter (up to age 3) but after that, they stopped because the daughter needed to start to take her bath on own so...I am sure the daugther doesn't remember seeing her dad naked since she was probably too young to remember.

I am ambivalent about this issue. I think a child should be comfortable with nudity. (just NAKED bodies.. not bodies in an erotica position or whatnot). I don't want my child to grow up giggling out of being ashamed if s/he happens to see a penis or a nipple of a woman. S/he should be able to shrug it off like a mature person.
But at same time, I don't want to traumatize my kids if I force them to see my husband or myself being naked and develop an unusual attraction to either of us! :ekk:

nutthin wrong with that.. i saw my mom nude many time and she saw my nude body too.. cuz of we are mother and daughter anyway.. but stepfather or real father , hell no! i am not allow... so my god daughter saw me in robe thats all..

Liebling:-))) said:

I see nothing wrong that the parents show their nude bodies to their children when the kids are in the bedroom while the parents are dressing or at bathroom. The children are curious what kind of bodies the parents have and questioned is natural but the parents show their kids the limitations when it comes to outside the home. The body is a natural thing and should not be hidden from the children.

My husband and I are very comfortable with our bodies and nudity and don't hide it from our children. Our children didn´t pay attention when they walks in while we´re dressing in the bedroom, wash ourselves, toilet, bath or shower in the bathroom when they want to talk us.

I think it is unnatural for parents to be weirded out by being nude in front of their children at any age because nudity is not a pornography but natural. IMO

But it should never be a shameful thing if they happen to see you naked or a part of your body you don't want seen by them. IMO

But it´s your choice to not let your child see you naked or it must be have good reason why the parents hide their bodies from their children.

Come and share your opinion/discuss with us......

Agree to Disagree are welcome here....

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Depends on culture and country. In Sweden or Japan, it is no big deal to see the naked parents. There are lots of "nude" beaches in Sweden. I don't know much about Germany or UK but europeans shared with me that they have similar philosophy as Swedish people concerning about this topic. After all, we were born naked *gasp*! That's what puritans will never get it. The biggest problem in America is Puritanism. I am not saying that all of Americans are puritans. Hell, I am American and I am not puritan.

I personally don't see anything wrong with this issue at all... Of course as long as in our own property and get the prying eyes out of the pictures. Again, that's my opinion. I never seen my father or mother naked in my childhood era.

Edit: Oops, I forget to answer your question. Yes, it is definitely natural to show our naked bodies to our children with no questions and without any doubts.

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... After all, we were born naked *gasp*! That's what puritans will never get it. ..

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What does being born naked have to do with anything? That doesn't mean nakedness is the appropriate state for every occasion and every age.

The biggest problem in America is Puritanism. I am not saying that all of Americans are puritans. Hell, I am American and I am not puritan.

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How can puritanism be "the biggest problem in American"? I have never even met one Puritan in America, and I have never seen one on TV or in the newspaper. If anything, I think hedonism, pride, materialism, and self-centeredness are worse problems in America. Modesty in dress and behavior is hardly a rampent epidemic in America.

Yes, it is definitely natural to show our naked bodies to our children with no questions and without any doubts.

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For what beneficial reason?

Reba said:

I don't see any good reason for letting children older than babies seeing their parents' naked bodies. What's the point? Everyone should be entitled to privacy.

There is nothing wrong with modesty. Society has too much of the attitude of "letting it all hang out," (even when the "it" that is "hanging out" is not very attractive).

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I agree with you. I think once a child reaches the age where they start asking questions, than that is the time to cover up. Children need to learn boundaries, and they have to learn those boundaries from the adults around them.

Magatsu said:

Depends on culture and country. In Sweden or Japan, it is no big deal to see the naked parents. There are lots of "nude" beaches in Sweden. I don't know much about Germany or UK but europeans shared with me that they have similar philosophy as Swedish people concerning about this topic. After all, we were born naked *gasp*! That's what puritans will never get it. The biggest problem in America is Puritanism. I am not saying that all of Americans are puritans. Hell, I am American and I am not puritan.

I personally don't see anything wrong with this issue at all... Of course as long as in our own property and get the prying eyes out of the pictures. Again, that's my opinion. I never seen my father or mother naked in my childhood era.

Edit: Oops, I forget to answer your question. Yes, it is definitely natural to show our naked bodies to our children with no questions and without any doubts.

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I know what you are saying about other countries, but I have to disagree with you. I really don't think it's appropriate for a child to see an adult naked. I grew up seeing my Mother without clothes on in various instances, and while it didn't scar me for life, I also don't really think it was all that appropriate. I also have never seen my Dad nude. And, actually, I think I've caught him in his underwear, maybe, 3 times in my entire life. I just believe that when you are dealing with children, you must set forth a clear boundary line, and this is one of those cases.

I don't feel comfy being nude front of my children which isn't proprite like that way.. When turn little bit older enough being their own respobile privacy what I did taught my children proprite behavouir ways "Not allowed nude front of public or rest of their bro or sister" I'd rather my children's room must close the door and while chaning their clothes or else...but my children knows about boobies/penis are different sizes aren't same rest of other peoples'.
I don't know what else can I say more...

*mumbling blabbles countines* sorry....

I came from conservative family and my husband's mother is very liberal. Things that bothered me then was when I started dating my husband (then boyfriend) and we were visiting at her house for the weekend... they both had undies on walking around the house. I'm like? are they soft?! Hello? Yoohoo! The girlfriend's here! Look at me, I'm completely dressed! I had a talk with him after 3rd time around because I didn't like it at all and they were too old to be doing this and I wanted respect.

Now with my daughter, I didn't want to see that happening like my husband and mom did. I do worry sometimes when my hubby gets dressed in front of our 17 months old daughter and she would pick up on things, ya know? I worry that fathers molesting daughters. Maybe I'm over-reacting to this, but what can I say, I am conservative and I worry about things. :roll:

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What does being born naked have to do with anything? That doesn't mean nakedness is the appropriate state for every occasion and every age.

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I guess I have to explain a bit by then. We were born naked so therefore why not be proud of our nakedness? Instead of "shamed" or "embarrassed" about it....? I read the books about France and its culture, they are so damn proud of their bodies and thier nakedness bodies. Their daughters less likely have any problem with their bodies such as self-esteem, self-assured, etc while lack of self-esteem, self-assured, etc is a epidemic in America. That's the huge difference between French and Americans.

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How can puritanism be "the biggest problem in American"? I have never even met one Puritan in America, and I have never seen one on TV or in the newspaper. If anything, I think hedonism, pride, materialism, and self-centeredness are worse problems in America. Modesty in dress and behavior is hardly a rampent epidemic in America.

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Wow, I don't know what to say to that. In fact, I visited at my (ugh) birth state, Virginia and I met the Virginians and approx half of them are puritans. My parents shared their experiences with 'southern' people when they lived in Virginia, Kentucky and WVA, most of them are puritans. My dad is a hardcore conservative & red-necked christian and he even was frightened by these puritans in these states. My relatives and friends had their own shares of experiences with Puritans in America as well. I guess there is a difference in your and our experiences. Not only that, there are countless political books which provided the evidences of puritans and their presence in America.

Bit offtopic, I wonder if do you even aware that privatization is part of self-centeredness and materialism? (these Corporation-related books I read indicated that they are related). In that case, I am more than glad to say that I agree with you about self-centeredness and materialism as two of several biggest problems in America. I thank you for pointing these out.

However, I disagree with you about puritanism. It is indeed the biggest problem. Look at these people who bend their obsession to this so-called "morals" while they kept forgetting that economy and job security is more important than "morals". After all economy and job security will bring us the roof to sleep under, foods on the table to eat and toilet for us to pee and shit in it. Morality itself cannot bring the foods to our table, it also cannot give us the roof to sleep under... and it cannot construct the toilet and water system for us to pee and shit in it either. Or unless, it somehow magically did these for us?

Here's dictionary.com's definition of puritanism: Scrupulous moral rigor, especially hostility to social pleasures and indulgences: “Puritanism is the source of our greatest hypocrisies and most crippling illusions” (Molly Haskell).

Does that strike the familiarity in anyone's mind about the certain religious/political groups in America? Speaking of hedonism, it made me puzzled when you brought it up... no offense but to me, that's Orwellspeak.

Definition of "hedonism": Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.

Definition of "puritanism": Scrupulous moral rigor, especially hostility to social pleasures and indulgences:

For example, dancing is part of pleasure and there are some religious groups in California which tried to close the dance clubs and such. There are many cases of these puritanism behaviors in many states. If it is not puritanism then I don't know what their odd obsessive behavior are.

Reba said:

For what beneficial reason?

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Here's a question for you, why it is embarrassed or shamed to reveal ourselves to our children when they were young...? I read somewhere in medical journal about parents revealed their naked bodies when their kids were young which helped the reducing of rate of rape. I wonder, is that why rate of rape is relatively low in UK or Japan than in America? Here's statistic and this statistic (run down by America and its own U.S. Department of Justice. Yessir/ma'am, none of statistics by UN).

There are plenty of beneficials reasons: closeness, better understanding of their bodies, be proud of their own bodies, self-confidence, self-assured, self-esteem, the list is nearly limitless... According to this book (I think that's the book I learned from), America is only one industrialized country on this Earth that rejected the idea of "be proud of your body and your nakedness body" philosophy.

Edit: Reba and anyone, I strongly suggest to pick up some psychology/behavior-related books and read. It may will help you to understand bit better about these issues.

Once again, I guess I crossed the line and shared my 'radical' views with you. And also I am a not parent so I guess I have no rights (er, privileges) to "voice" my opinion as what I did above.

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Once again, I guess I crossed the line and shared my 'radical' views with you. And also I am a not parent so I guess I have no rights (er, privileges) to "voice" my opinion as what I did above.

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You have every right to voice your opinion, rather or not you're a parent. This forum is for everyone. So feel free to say what you wish to say.

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I guess I have to explain a bit by then. We were born naked so therefore why not be proud of our nakedness?

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A new born baby's body is not the same Britney Spears' body or Michael Moore's body. I don't want to see the latter two in their "birthday suits" at a family gathering. There is a proper time and place for everything.

...I read the books about France and its culture, they are so damn proud of their bodies and thier nakedness bodies.

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So? They are vain about outward appearance. I am not impressed.

Wow, I don't know what to say to that. In fact, I visited at my (ugh) birth state, Virginia and I met the Virginians and approx half of them are puritans.

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Ha, ha. Do you even know what real Puritans were?

http://www.puritansermons.com/banner/logan1.htm

Bit offtopic, I wonder if do you even aware that privatization is part of self-centeredness and materialism? (these Corporation-related books I read indicated that they are related). In that case, I am more than glad to say that I agree with you about self-centeredness and materialism as two of several biggest problems in America. I thank you for pointing these out.

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Yes, you really are off topic, unless you are saying privatizing is a Puritan doctrine. Poor Puritans! They get blamed for everything. They must be rolling in their graves.

However, I disagree with you about puritanism. It is indeed the biggest problem. Look at these people who bend their obsession to this so-called "morals" while they kept forgetting that economy and job security is more important than "morals".

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Huh? I thought your previous paragraph implied the Puritans were too materialistic because they supported privatization. Isn't that the "economy"? You can't have it both ways. Either the "Puritans" are more concerned about morals or about the economy. Which is it?

Sorry, this is getting too much :topic:

Here's dictionary.com's definition of puritanism: Scrupulous moral rigor, especially hostility to social pleasures and indulgences: “Puritanism is the source of our greatest hypocrisies and most crippling illusions” (Molly Haskell).

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You left out some of the other definition:
"n 1: the beliefs and practices characteristic of Puritans (most of whom were Calvinists who wished to purify the Church of England of its Catholic aspects)"
BTW, do you know who Molly Haskell is? I do.

I don't think there are many Puritans around today, because I don't see many Americans acting hostile to "social pleasures and indulgences." Most seem to be enjoying themselves without restriction.

Speaking of hedonism, it made me puzzled when you brought it up... no offense but to me, that's Orwellspeak.

Definition of "hedonism": Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.

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Exactly. As I said, there is much more emphasis in America for hedonism than there is for puritanism.

Here's a question for you, why are you embarrassed or shamed to reveal yourself to your children when they were young...?

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I never said that. I said there is no good reason to do that. I said that we should emphasize more modesty. When my daughter was young there was no reason for me to show her my naked body. I wasn't embarressed or shamed. I just never had any reason to do that.

Here's a question for you. Why do you think you must show your naked body to your children?

I read somewhere in medical journal about parents revealed their naked bodies when their kids were young which helped the reducing of rate of rape.

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How does it do that? Please explain. Rape is a crime of violence and domination. What does that have to do with kids looking at naked parents?
I read your links, and they didn't state any connection between naked parents and rape.

I did find something interesting about Japan in the link that you provided.

JAPAN THE TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN

Thousands of women are smuggled into Japan every year. They arrive with promises of good paying jobs in hotels, restaurants, etc. The reality is to find a life of sexual slavery awaits them.
The trade in women is controlled by the yakuza crime syndicate. These women are forced to work as prostitutes against their own free will and recieve no payment.

The yakuza rely on the terror of the concentration camp, verbal threats, beatings and rape. Japan is one of the regions top destinations for women forced into sexual slavery.

Human Rights activists estimate the trade is worth Yen4 trillion ($400 million) a year. It is estimated more then 75,000 women are working as prostitution slaves in Japan.

The trade accounts for 1% of Japan's GNP, as big as its annual defence budget. Little wonder the Japanese government does not care about these women. It appears it considers the dollar more important.

Somtimes the women escape these prostition death camps but the retribution is swift and brutal. Usually it is targetted at both the women and their families. Traffickers gunned down a Thai man who was waiting at Bangkok airport to meet his daughter who had fled her captors.

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesjapan.htm

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There are plenty of beneficials reasons: closeness, better understanding of their bodies, be proud of their own bodies, self-confidence, self-assured, self-esteem, the list is nearly limitless...

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That is ridiculous. I checked your link, and it didn't say anything about naked parents being the source of "closeness, etc." Do you have any real research to back up that statement?

Edit: Reba and anyone, I strongly suggest to pick up some psychology/behavior-related books and read. It may will help you to understand bit better about these issues.

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Ha, ha, you are assuming that I have never before read any "psychology/behavior-related books" just because I have a different viewpoint. It might shock you to know that not every psychologist is a liberal.