EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

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:dunno: I don't know who you are arguing with...

If you don't mind, please quote anything with discrimination against the Deaf, ASL, Deaf culture and etc. in this thread. I have a feeling you will have trouble finding one.
 
Quit playing a MIND games if you dont mind.. and stay out of it. You stick up in the wrong side as usual. Sighs!

I dont owe you any explaination if you mind..
 
I just want to help set the record straight is all.

At the least, don't ever accuse me of being a traitor because my loyalty will always lie in my family's best interests.
 
Dont even bother to ask me if you mind.. All you do is looking at the mirror and ask yourself that question first. Think of yourself too much while I m thinking about the Deaf people of Deaf community in a very postive reinforcement that is very healthy while you and your wife dont have that. Mind you!

You re guilty since you said I did accused you personally however, I did not.. It shows me that is who you are. Thats what I am seeing before I can reply you from the beginning.. Bingo! Nothing new that is coming from you. ;)
 
Oh but Boult, I do agree with this portion of her previous statement
Sourmind said:
Dont even bother to ask me if you mind..
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Sourmind said:
You stick up in the wrong side as usual
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Why do there have to be "sides"???? It is all up to individual choice. SM, you certainly aren't portraying the deaf community in a very positive light for a parent coming to this board seeking information on behalf of their child. You may want to re evaluate your tactics if you claim that what you have to say is for the good of deaf children.
 
Sourmind said:
I am so glad that I have proved that CI and HA are the same behavioral patterns that we do not hear everything. MIND YOU! Finally I got them to face the fact.
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SM, you haven't proven a thing. Until you have been implanted with a CI, you have no base of knowlege for what you are commenting on.
 
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:D It's funny though.

I agree to disagree.
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Its like a train wreck...you KNOW its gonna be messy but you still look!
 
Oh but Boult, I do agree with this portion of her previous statement
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Dont even bother to ask me if you mind..
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Originally Posted by Sourmind
You stick up in the wrong side as usual
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Eve is a special teacher and has no point here.. Whew! I couldnt believe it she has no responsibility for her own actions as it s the same thing for Cloggy s behavior. Wow this is real childish audism people. People have not changed at all ever since.

And I cannot believe they are allowed to call me sourmind and get away with it.. How *258*!!! That 's very good example some of you got banned from other forums that the owner has a very good reason. You cannot blamed him for taking his own action to stop people bash people.

Many thanks for your true colors. ;)
 
The quote by Harlan Lane, in his book, The Mask of Benevolence, p. 17 is as follows:

"Deaf identity itself is highly valued; deaf people seem to agree that a hearing person can never fully acquire that identity and become a full-fledged member of the deaf community. The hearing person will have missed the experience of growing up deaf, including attending a deaf school, and is likely to have divided allegiances. Speech and thinking like a hearing person are negatively valued in deaf culture. Deaf people who adopt hearing values and look down on other deaf people are regarded as traitors."
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Thats why I agree with Harlen Lane that shows us already. Thanks!
 
Hello Sweety,
I'll have to answer you inside your quote because, again, so many misinterpretation, accusations that are unfounded and thing that I have allready explained but you have allready forgotten. It's OK, I'll explain it again......
Sweetmind said:
NO I didnt have to open eyes until CLOGGY has to accept that his daughter is deaf with CI or HA.
He spoke for himself not his daughter. Thats why I resisted it from him. I was a deaf child myself and knew whats it alike to process to learn how to speak and listen with my HA. JEEZ!
As I have said earlier, my daughter is deaf. It might have slipped your attention as I only said it about a hundred times. So, she's deaf.
She's also 3-1/2 and cannot speak for herself. That's why - the parents speak for her and made the decision for her to have CI. That's what parents are for - I think. If you have other experiences regarding parenting, that another issue. But for us, we make the decision.
.... I bet he s still pretend that she is NOT hearing so he lied to make himself look good.
Just to get yor way of thinking.... She is NOT hearing so therefore I lied.... I really need an ASL translation on this one because I really do not get it. Anyone... feel free to help.
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And he thinks many of deafies are trapped into Deaf community. Wrong assumption .... ..........
Now I know i have told the truth that CI is not gonna to make you hear everything just like Hearing aid if you mind.. Why destroy those kids's Residual Hearing, who are very innocent???
How did you figure out your truth... I have asked you before but never got an answer. (Not surprised though) When is someone hearing?
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Since I can hear the bird with HA when everything is calm down and quiet if you mind after I realized that. NICE excuses that we couldnt hear with the bird s singing with HA whoever said it .. That is a big lie. I know the difference between Deaf and HOH.
Sure Sweety. You hear a bird. You can hear..... ....

Oh yea!! tell me why a ex CI kid who failed with CI itself and continually to use SEE while his writing is not so great since age two in mainstream. SO tell me how to solve the problem?? Ignore this CI failure s needs in mainstream school.. UMMPPHH. Something wrong here!
Please refrase this because it makes no sense. Except for the UMMPPH ....

And I dont appreciate for anyone to destroy their residual hearings while they still can hear with their HA. Scoffs! Thats why I am against it.FIne, so you are OK with children that have no residual hearing to be implanted.... for some reason I doubt that.
Where is your limit for residual hearing? Hearing an airplane at 30 meters?.
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Thats why it s important to have ASL from the start that many parents dont give their kids to have ASL because parent did not know any better and uneducated. After all, they get the wrong idea about ASL so why is that?Finally something to agree with. ASL is important from the beginning when the child is developing. But sometime it's just as good to start straight with oral. When the child has CI and never has had any sign, speech would be the preferred way to go. If the child can communicate with sign, the best thing to do is to use the sign to establish speech. (All in my opinion...) ....

Now u can see why I dont agree with SEE itself. Thanks!
Well, that's a stretch, seeing that connection

Yea why dont you open your eyes as well?

Wide open

Thank you! ;)
You're welcome


Sweetmind
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C U
 
Sweetmind said:
YOu dont know nothing about him ever since I had dealing with him for more than 1 1/2 years after all he has no respect for all of deafies especially me and CSN ..He has no respect for me after all he namedcalled me tooo many times. Guess what he might be the representative for CI corporation that is how people pushed too far. .....
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I recall you calling me Hitler... and then me getting banned from DeafNotes...

By the way, I have allways had respect for you and CSN. HAd lengtly discussions with him.
I have never had a discussion with you. I did read a lot of monologs, but I have never noticed communication.
 
neecy said:
Nobody here has said that CI's or HA's help people hear everything clearly, and no you didn't get them to "face the facts." They knew that all along, you just refused to see it, because you'd have to admit you were wrong, and we know you won't do that.

I know that, Cloggy knows that, so does everybody else, but it seems to me that you are the one who won't listen.
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Cloggy said:
I like this example better than the "let's make a hearing child deaf in order to integrate her with her deaf parents" example.

It's a good example. The only problem is the "but didn't work fully" which as an example in itself is fine, but with the technology NOWADAYS it does work.

So, it's fine if you decide NOT to take it as long as it is not based on OLD information.

People here that are defending CI are not telling anyone to take it. They are explaining the current status, technology so that people that are interested get the correct, current information.

This way a choice can be made on good information. Not OLD and INCORRECT information
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Hmmm...do I see inconsistency and failure to read other people's posts??? :eek:
 
You dont get it.. I m saying it reminds me of Hilter who wants everybody are the same? Thats what I meant this and you refused to understand the concept of what People are trying to do with us deafies. Thank you!

YOu took it personal then it s your issues.. You refused to listen the true negative situation affects us deafies for years and years.

Now I am seeing you are not fully telling the truth all along.

Of course it s HILTER s opinion that is what I am seeing the whole picture of whats going on with our deaf people who have the right to fight against those audism people from the past and today's . Thats when I woke up my own eyes and realized how dare people come into deaf community and take take take take everything what we shared with our gifted appreciation to the outsider of Deaf community. AND destroy our Deaf schools, ASL, and many other things that our Deaf people who invented those Deaf accessories that we need to be equal as hearing people.. Now many hearing people are making money out on us today's. What s that supposed to be for them to do that while they dont have their positive attitude about us and our Deaf community? That makes me feel very very offensive and stand up for our Deaf people of Deaf community that they are not blamed for everything.. Blame yourself because you have a very negative view and nasty attitude toward us all along that we do not appreciate to have you around. Thank you!

CI corporation is the one of Hilter s attitude to make a big $$$$$$$$$ and also people who is the representative for CI corporation and come into our DeafNotes to push people too hard. Also DeafNotes has the rules for you not to use the adveristment about CI s business that they are making money. We are not gonna to tolerate this selfish / bigotry/ audism people. They dont have any respect for DeafNotes that is for us to share and educate people who wants to know full information. Whoever comes into DeafNotes to bash people like me or CSN or Donn or many positive attitude people. Thats the way Hilter who wants to invade and destroy people and our Deaf community like that.. Audism doesnt have any positive about us because they dont feel good about themselves by being deaf.. Why should we get bashed for?

And also CI corporation is making an excuses and lies so many things that I have found something to show the fact of what CI doctors had been said in the bibilical quotes that turns against our deafness.. GUESS what Boult abused my freedom of speech after he removed some post replies without the owner s authorization while he was out of town.. Thats dishonest as well. You dont care however I DO CARE if you mind.

IT is not for CI issue only all the time if you mind.. Thank you! Thats what it turns me off when it comes with a bigotry attitude from you and your followers.

Also you have other nicknames that I knew it for a long time.. So you cannot fool me that easily and am not that stupid as they are. thank you!

Thanks! ;)
Sweetmind
 
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gnulinuxman said:
Hmmm...do I see inconsistency and failure to read other people's posts??? :eek:
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Stop picking at splinters in their eyes when you have a telephone pole in yours :Owned:
 
Eve said:
SM, you haven't proven a thing. Until you have been implanted with a CI, you have no base of knowlege for what you are commenting on.
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There's no need for name-calling here. She does have valid points, though.
 
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