German girl rescued from sex offender

I do not support death penalty but 30 years to life sentence.
 
CyberRed said:
Only 3 years in prison ? That's NOT enough. If, he receives only 3 years in jail, then he should go straight to the electric chair. I support death penalty to less overcrowd in prison.

With his only 3 years in jail, he will be more likely sexual abuse again when he gets out of jail.
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GMTA! :)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I do not support death penalty but 30 years to life sentence.
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That's my girl! :hug: same here I do not support death penalty either!
 
CyberRed said:
Only 3 years in prison ? That's NOT enough. If, he receives only 3 years in jail, then he should go straight to the electric chair. I support death penalty to less overcrowd in prison.

With his only 3 years in jail, he will be more likely sexual abuse again when he gets out of jail.
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Hearing this from a Christian is a bit surprising. Doesn't it say in your bible "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?
 
:thumb: ^Angel^ and Butterflygirl...

ITPjohn, I forget to tell one more but it´s too late for me to edit to make more post in my last post...

http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=463247&postcount=18

Here is answer on your question.

Out for weekends??!!!!!! Are you saying that German convicts get out on weekends to visit family, friends, etc. without a police escort? I have a hard time understanding that.
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Yes you understood correct... :ugh: I think after few years prison until they see their good behavior then will have 21 days detention vacation a year.

Prisoners return to prison at spot time... which it mean that their years will be reduce for their good behavior.

Many prisoners have sentences reduced for good behavior.
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Yes it´s same with here in Germany.

That's why I said 30 years without parole for this crime. If he EVER gets out, he'll be to f***g old to think about sex/molesting another child.
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Exactly
 
Vacation??!!!!!!!

Yes you understood correct... I think after few years prison until they see their good behavior then will have 21 days detention vacation a year.
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I've never served on jury duty, but I wonder if this is explained during the sentencing phase. I would be furious to think that a convicted felon would get up to three weeks a year on the outside to do as he pleases and this not be brought up to the jury sentencing him. Anyone involved in a violent crime should stay locked up until their sentence is finished. The safety of law-biding citizens trumps the 'rights' of prisoners.

Where is Taylor? I would love to see his take on all of this.
 
ITPjohn said:
I've never served on jury duty, but I wonder if this is explained during the sentencing phase. I would be furious to think that a convicted felon would get up to three weeks a year on the outside to do as he pleases and this not be brought up to the jury sentencing him. Anyone involved in a violent crime should stay locked up until their sentence is finished. The safety of law-biding citizens trumps the 'rights' of prisoners.

Where is Taylor? I would love to see his take on all of this.
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Yes I has to agree with you... *sigh* I´m disagree with German law...
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Hearing this from a Christian is a bit surprising. Doesn't it say in your bible "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?
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Well, look at your christian friends doin' in Pensiruim ( sp ? - what ever ) and posted things in there hmm ? And, you didn't say anythin' about it eh ? The bible says do not commit adultery... rings a bell huh ? So quit judgin'. :bye:
 
CyberRed said:
Well, look at your christian friends doin' in Pensiruim ( sp ? - what ever ) and posted things in there hmm ? And, you didn't say anythin' about it eh ? The bible says do not commit adultery... rings a bell huh ? So quit judgin'. :bye:
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I do not know which friends you were referring to. It was just that I was a bit surprised to see you talk about supporting death penalty because I have seen the way you preach to others in here about the bible so I assumed you were against death penalty.
 
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ButterflyGirl said:
I do not know which friends you were referring to. If these people are Christians then at least they aren't hypocrites. I was a bit surprised to see you talk about supporting death penalty because I have seen the way you preach to others in here about the bible so I assumed you were against death penalty.
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BFG, I don't know what your beef is with Cyber Red, but it's starting to become obvious that you're trying to draw her into a debate for the sole purpose of creating discord. It's really getting annoying to those of us not involved. If you have a disagreement with her, please take it private and settle it, so this thread doesn't get trashed.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
BFG, I don't know what your beef is with Cyber Red, but it's starting to become obvious that you're trying to draw her into a debate for the sole purpose of creating discord. It's really getting annoying to those of us not involved. If you have a disagreement with her, please take it private and settle it, so this thread doesn't get trashed.
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:shock: :confused: :confused: I haven't attacked her at all. All I was doing was speaking out my opinions if I disagree with anyone's posts. She is not the only one I have disagreed with. There are some others that I have disagreed with but they don't take it too personally with me. Oh boy I guess CR is too sensitive huh?

BTW, if you weren't happy with me then you should have PM'ed me instead of posting it here.
 
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Obviously, those who are getting annoyed are the ones that can't handle a different opinion or thought being expressed here in this thread....OR taking such thought/opinion in a different way than it's intended.

Be warned...I'm watching this thread closely now....


~RR
 
ButterflyGirl said:
... Doesn't it say in your bible "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?
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The Bible says that individuals should not murder each other. That is NOT the same as legally processed capital punishment.
 
Reba said:
The Bible says that individuals should not murder each other. That is NOT the same as legally processed capital punishment.
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That makes sense.
Only God can make a tree, and murder apparently.
I hasten to add, lest I offend anyone, "legally."
 
ITPjohn said:
I've never served on jury duty, but I wonder if this is explained during the sentencing phase. I would be furious to think that a convicted felon would get up to three weeks a year on the outside to do as he pleases and this not be brought up to the jury sentencing him. Anyone involved in a violent crime should stay locked up until their sentence is finished. The safety of law-biding citizens trumps the 'rights' of prisoners.

Where is Taylor? I would love to see his take on all of this.
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LOL, not sure anyone here really wants my opinion on this. Sex Offenders are a very sore subject with me. I am not a believer that sex offenders can be rehabilitated. IMO drug addicts and alcoholics can be rehabilitated but sex offenders cannot. There is a reason why the sex offender registry is made public...its so you can know the dangers of living in your neighborhood. This list is made because many of them are predators when they still get out of jail. I believe that many sex offenses should be 20,30 years or even life (and Reba has pointed out that a life sentence is NOT a life sentence).

There are, however, different classifications of sex offenders. A 20 year old who dates a 16 year old is technically a sex offender...while illegal, I do not see this person as a predator. The person in the above story is a predator. He is 35, she is 13. He kidnapped her and held her captive. She is very, very lucky to even be alive. Most predators do not keep their victims around for that long....and it was surprising to learn that she was found alive.

I'm curious as to what his previous sex offense against a minor was. If he molested children, then I'd say the 3 year sentence was too lenient and should have been put away for much longer (life sentence comes to mind). If he grabbed a 17 year olds butt, then that would be a 4th degree sex offense here in Maryland and he probably would have gotten less than 3 years.
I'll save everyone the graphic definitions found in our state law about what a sex offense is but you may be surprised at what some of them are.

What surprised me most about this story is the way she was found. Imagine how much paper and trash that you walk past in a single day...and somebody found a small scrap paper with her note scribbled on it. That is amazing by itself, and then that person took it seriously and went to the police.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of sexual predators out there, and the internet has helped them tremendously in searching for prey. As some of you already know, I spent my Valentines Day working an operation that was set up to bust sexual predators. These were grown men that thought they were meeting a 13 year old girl.
 
Reba said:
The Bible says that individuals should not murder each other. That is NOT the same as legally processed capital punishment.
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The concept of what it is scripturally written, yeah....then if so, then the 'judgement' of someone to be sent to 'death' by a governement can be wrong...as He IS the Judge....


Forgive me for going a bit off the topic here....
 
Reba said:
The problem is, a "life sentence" in Germany doesn't really mean the offender will be locked up for life.

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=422216&postcount=1
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I made 2 posts to response your thread.

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=425571&postcount=55
http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=425579&postcount=56

Like what Taylor said in his post is similar to Germany...

IF sex offenders are killer, rapist, abuse physical... then long life sentence... because it´s too much...

IF sex offeners are not killer but rapist and abuse then 10 to 30 years sentence.

IF sex offenders are not killer, rapist etc then 3 to 10 years prison..including molested children.

It depend on different type of sex offenders...

We have sex offenders who rapist and kill little children here in Germany... they sentence him long life prison.
 
Reba said:
The Bible says that individuals should not murder each other. That is NOT the same as legally processed capital punishment.
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To me, the Killer, Rapist, Sex Offenders should be have harsh punishment, not death penalty. It look like that the law system judge them to death as "Revenge" which it´s no right.

I don't beleive in "Revenge". I beleive God and Jesus would not like "Revenge".


Death penalty is a MURDER..., not punishment. I would consider law system as murder the same if they put criminals to death...

I see no excuse when anyone said that it´s right to put crimes to death because they are killer... because law system are also MURDER, too...
 
Amen Liebling!


There is the possibility of putting an innocent person to death too....The danger that innocent people will be executed because of errors in the criminal justice system is getting worse...... :-/
 
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