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Cheri said:
No, I did not mean that you said abortion was on the top of the sinned world, I was showing you it isn't on the top, You kept on rubbing Abortion in our face like we really murdered our baby. Abortion is a sin just like a lie is a sin, Even through nobody is perfect. But, If we say our opinion how we feel about abortion, some people are Pro-choice some are Pro-life, Therefore you jumped at Pro-choice people who believes it's the women right to choose, You did not respect those people's opinions. Understand what I am saying? :)
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No, I don't understand. I have not jumped at anyone. Every one has the opportunity to post their opinions.

I don't deny that lying is a sin. I only ask that other people stop denying that killing a baby is a sin. Both actions are sin.
 
Personally, I would be pleased to see abortions restricted to the first trimester, for medical reasons, and not as it is now, as an alternate means of birth control nearly up to full term. Heck, they can now successfully save premies younger than the oldest babies aborted. Sad.
 
Fly Free said:
crazyman -- i so totally DISAGREE with u -- i have NEVER heard of a child who was born and automatically had sinned that does NOT make sense to me period! :roll:
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fly free made a good point and I'm a christian but I don't judge whoever did have abortion.. but unlike for u crazyman.. u have no right to cuss whoever did have the abortion all have different reasons what they have done for.. I hate hate hate whoever practices christians can cuss whoever did sin stuff and I don't care about sin stuff but everyone have once in a lifetime to expereince everything and unlike for u some people does learn from mistake and not repeat from mistake but quit making cheri look bad.. I just respect whoever have opinions about abortion.. I BET u did something wrong in past and u won't admit so quit thinking u KNOW everything!
 
GeMiNiCaT05 said:
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Pardon me.
I never said that I know everything. You need to learn to understand what they are saying and what their standing and their knowledge is at. It is perfect example, that you judge me as that I know everything without me mention that I know everything. That is insulting comments.
 
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals.
It's so obvious when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
 
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Y said:
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "sluts" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" it's so obvious
when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
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Excuse me? If you want to call someone a slut then say it. What makes you so damn perfect anyway? You are no better than me or anyone else who are unwed, We do not get married because there a child involved. You get married out of love. No wonder why there too many divorce in the United States because people rush to get married. You have no right to judge, You were not in our feet to walk the steps.
 
Y said:
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "sluts" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" it's so obvious
when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
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Look Y..there is no need for harsh judgement here. You claim to be a Christian so hold back your harsh judgements and name callngs and embrace everyone with compassion.
 
Cheri said:
... We do not get married because there a child involved. You get married out of love. ..
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I agree you should love the person you marry.

When a man and a woman love each other they get married, then in their love they make babies together.

But if you don't love someone enough to marry, why would you make babies without love?
 
Y said:
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals.
It's so obvious when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
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No. You are plainly wrong. Based on the bible and Jesus' Words. You do NOT, I repeat: NOT have the right to judge them. If you do then you are not christian. Since you were raving that you do have the right to judge others then I do have the right to judge based on your action that you are not christian. You will go to the hell for imposing your fucked up judgment on others. How's that? it is clear enough that you didn't read the bible or pay any heed to what Jesus and God said about judging and imposing.

Everyone, that's an perfect example of hypocritical christian for you :roll:

Note: Mods & members, sorry about my attitude but her namecalling is totally unnecessary, I give her a taste of her medicine. Nothing more or less than that.
 
Reba said:
I agree you should love the person you marry.

When a man and a woman love each other they get married, then in their love they make babies together.

But if you don't love someone enough to marry, why would you make babies without love?
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I believe Marriage is for lifetime, I am not going to rush myself in marriage when I do not know if it is forever. And It wasn't forever, I wouldn't want to be stuck in an unhappy marriage with someone that wouldn't last a lifetime with.
 
Cheri said:
I believe Marriage is for lifetime, I am not going to rush myself in marriage when I do not know if it is forever. And It wasn't forever, I wouldn't want to be stuck in an unhappy marriage with someone that wouldn't last a lifetime with.
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Yes, I understand that. So until you are ready to marry the right man you do not have sex with any man because you are not ready. After you find the right man, then you marry and have children. That makes sense.
 
Magatsu said:
No. You are plainly wrong. Based on the bible and Jesus' Words. You do NOT, I repeat: NOT have the right to judge them. If you do then you are not christian. Since you were raving that you do have the right to judge others then I do have the right to judge based on your action that you are not christian. You will go to the hell for imposing your fucked up judgment on others. How's that? it is clear enough that you didn't read the bible or pay any heed to what Jesus and God said about judging and imposing.

Everyone, that's an perfect example of hypocritical christian for you :roll:

Note: Mods & members, sorry about my attitude but her namecalling is totally unnecessary, I give her a taste of her medicine. Nothing more or less than that.
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It totally amazes me how you clearly judge other people for being judgmental, and you never even realize how judgmental you are.
 
Reba said:
Yes, I understand that. So until you are ready to marry the right man you do not have sex with any man because you are not ready. After you find the right man, then you marry and have children. That makes sense.
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I was with him for 7 years and we were suppose to get married in 4 months later but he cheat on me, Why should I marry someone that made one mistake? Once a cheater would always be a cheater. I got smart not to get married. :mrgreen:
 
Cheri said:
I was with him for 7 years and we were suppose to get married in 4 months later but he cheat on me, Why should I marry someone that made one mistake? Once a cheater would always be a cheater. I got smart not to get married. :mrgreen:
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Well, if he is a cheater, then it is smart not to marry him, and not have children with him. That is simple. It is good that you find out he is a cheater before you marry or have children together.
 
Reba said:
Well, if he is a cheater, then it is smart not to marry him, and not have children with him. That is simple. It is good that you find out he is a cheater before you marry or have children together.
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What the differences if I did had children with him or not, It doesn't effect your life. it is my life and I do not regret having my boys. So I wish for you to keep ur opinions to yourself. If you don't believe in sex before marriage good for you, But that doesn't mean I follow your ways. I live my life, You live your life. That is the end of it. I do not judge you, therefore don't judge me for having sex without being married. That goes for Y too. Christen people really surprised me when they throw out judging cards in everyone's faces. :-o
 
Y said:
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals.
It's so obvious when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
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and you think you ARE A SAINT (PERFECT) and NEVER .. i mean NEVER MADE ANY MISTAKES!?!? in your lifetime?? yea yea :sure: :roll:
 
Cheri said:
I was with him for 7 years and we were suppose to get married in 4 months later but he cheat on me, Why should I marry someone that made one mistake? Once a cheater would always be a cheater. I got smart not to get married. :mrgreen:
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on other words.. ONCE A SNAKE, HE WILL ALWAYS BE A SNAKE! :ugh:
 
Y said:
As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals.
It's so obvious when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....
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BIG THUMBS FOR YOU!
 
zesty said:
and you think you ARE A SAINT (PERFECT) and NEVER .. i mean NEVER MADE ANY MISTAKES!?!? in your lifetime?? yea yea :sure: :roll:
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The difference is whether or not we admit it was a "mistake" (sin), and repent (change our ways).

Here is the proper Christian attitude:
I admit that I committed sins. I admit that my mistakes were sins, that they were wrong. Then I ask God to forgive me, and help me turn away from those sins and not repeat them. I know my sins are NOT OK.

Here is the different attitude:
People say they made mistakes but those are not sins. They don't want to change, and they just continue making the same "mistake" again. They want people to accept their sins as OK.
 
Y said:
For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)
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So you are calling these women sluts who had abortions because they were raped??????

So you are calling these women sluts who had abortions because their boyfriends ran off? Men do LIE and many run off, refusing to be responsible for their sperm donation.

So you are calling tehse women sluts who had abortions because ythey were in teens and never got any proper public health information about sex and most may have parents who neglected them and they didn't know any better??

You should stop judging the WHOLE population and look at case by case situation. Each situation is unique. Yes, abortion is horrible but so are the circumstances leading up to it with a few exceptions. You need to stop judging the whole population.

I suggest that you spend a weekend at an abortion clinic and talk to these women and put yourself in their shoes before you feel you are entitled to pass out harsh judgements.

Morality does not always play a role in this - many women have abortions despite their morals but because of socioencomoical status, educationl, age, lack of male support, etc.
 
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