Dear Dept. of Homeland Security

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I have been thinking about you a lot the last few days. You see, we don't know each other very well, although I've heard a lot about you, I don't think we've ever actually met. But then, that is most often the case for many of those I have "met" over the internet. You've been on my mind because you have made several visits the last two days to my most recent web page. You know the one, it's pretty much like this one, pictures of illegal aerosol activity over Houston.

I don't check out all my hits. There's been over 4000 on that page since it went up. But, I do grab 20 every now and then, to see who's there. Geez, you've been there a bunch! I'm flattered, truly. Yep, you, and NASA about 11 times and Boeing about 7, but then again, they come to my site more than I do... and many other interesting folks, from all over the world have been hanging out there a lot since Sunday night. This is you, right? 63.162.143.21 Yep, I'm sure it was you.

It was really kind of weird...I mentioned to a couple of folks at work today that y'all had been stopping by the page. You know what they did? They asked me if I was scared! Now, isn't that the silliest thing you have ever heard?!?! Why should I be SCARED of my government? Especially the Dept. of Homeland Security, for crying out loud.... aren't you supposed to be making me more secure? That's what I thought. Why would I be afraid of that?

So... I figured, since you were so interested, I'd write. I don't have your email address though, and you haven't written me, which you are most certainly welcome to do so if you have any questions about the pictures, or my research or why these operations are so absolutely WRONG. I've been checking into this for over 5 years, as you know, so I'm pretty well versed on the subject. I'd love to chat with you about it. I'll bring snacks. Anyway, I'm sure you'll be able to reach me if you want to, and since this is where you first found out about the page, I figured I could catch you here.

I always enjoy meeting folks and discussing this subject with others who are concerned for the safety and welfare of the citizens of this great nation, as I know YOU are. And don't ya LOVE the internet??? For example, I've just "met" several people the last few days since my pictures of the illegal aerosol operations over Houston pics were posted on the net Sunday night. I have gotten some letters from all over the country, even from England and Italy, some of them very sad. I love to hear from folks, but it's kind of hard to deal with their stress. I know where they're coming from. One thing is, ALL of the letters have the same concerns I do about the use of this technology without informed consent, environmental impact studies or want to know why our tax dollars are being spent on this without our knowledge or permission. Also, the health effects that are showing up because of this stuff. Some of the folks who wrote have sent me their own pictures, like this one below, from North Carolina. It was much worse there that day than here. I guess that's because we have so much normal air traffic over Houston, it's hard to get good coverage sometimes. But they give it their best shot.

So anyway...since you've been dropping by so much the last few days, you are probably getting tired of looking at those same pictures. But guess what!?!?!? Just this very day, operations continued over Houston, and guess what else?? I took MORE pictures. I figure you would appreciate a fresh set to look at, and I am more than happy to oblige. I wasn't able to get as many or capture the activity as often as Sunday, because I had to work today, but I thought I'd do what I could to help you out. As you'll see, the end result was the same. A crapped up sky.

So, here they are...but before I get to them, let me thank you. Because, I am sure that you, and the other nice government agencies and corporations, are coming to my site because they too are concerned about what these programs are doing to all of us, yep, you too. Barium and Aluminum do not discriminate, they're heavy metals, they have no brains. They make everyone sick. Doesn't matter what political affiliation one has or has not. Not to mention what the programs are doing to the water and the soil. And have you noticed the weird weather? Think about it.

So...thanks again for stopping by. You can count on me to keep you up to date regarding the Houston area. I think it's the most Patriotic Act I could do. (like the pun?) Seriously though, I'm really glad you visited. I love to find things in common with others on the net. And gee, I'm trying to fight terrorism too... isn't that neat?!?! Stop by the site anytime, afterall, we're in this together...right? And I know that you, like me, have the best interests of our fellow countrymen, their families and children at heart........don't we????
So here's today in Houston, TX, starting at about 8:30 am and going until 3pm.
And in case you want to reach me, my email addy is at the bottom.

Source: http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/dec1201.htm (there are some pictures. check it out)


Interesting... Very interesting.
 
That was interesting and different...the writer is multi-talented conveying this sort of message--
 
Magatsu,
First, welcome back. I do hope you will stay (a response to your e-mail is coming soon).

As for this, I'm not sure exactly what the writer is getting at. Since the time I was in diapers and have pointed up to say 'pwane', jets at high altitude have left these trails. As I got older, I used to call them 'skyscrapers' because the plane was scraping the sky. At some point in my early age, I learned that a skyscraper was a building (still not sure how they got buildings to fly back then ;) )

Those trails were there well before the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Also, on the days after 911 while aircraft were grounded, these trails were non-existent....why? Because no large aircrafter were flying at the high altitude.

More Here


ave you ever seen a perfectly cloudless sky?
Cloudless--that is--except for two or three long white lines smeared across the perfect blue sky by airplanes like smudges on a pane of glass. Why do airplanes sometimes leave contrails behind? Actually, contrails, short for condensation trails, are essentially clouds. They are no different from the cirrus clouds that naturally form in that region of the atmosphere.
High in the atmosphere, water can exist in one of two basic forms. It can either be invisible water vapor--a gas--or it can condense around microscopic dust particles into tiny droplets or ice crystals. Every cloud you see is made of tiny droplets or crystals like this, and so is a contrail.

To make an airplane contrail, you need water and some kind of microscopic particle for the water to condense around. When jet fuel burns, it releases both water vapor and microscopic particles of exhaust. A contrail occurs when the jet's water vapor condenses around its own exhaust particles.

If you see a plane that's leaving no contrail--or a very short one--this means the upper atmosphere is relatively dry. Dry air reabsorbs the water as invisible vapor almost as soon as it condenses. On the other hand, if you see a contrail that lasts a long time, this means the upper atmosphere is already saturated with as much water vapor as it can hold.

Because of this, you sometimes can use contrails to predict the weather. Quickly fading ones suggest a dry upper atmosphere and fair weather. If you see a lot of long contrails in the sunset though, you might carry an umbrella the next day!
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Taylor said:
Magatsu,
First, welcome back. I do hope you will stay (a response to your e-mail is coming soon).
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Thanks but I am still sitting on the fence about leaving or not. My date made few good points that I should stay here but anyway looking foward to recieve your email.

Taylor said:
As for this, I'm not sure exactly what the writer is getting at. Since the time I was in diapers and have pointed up to say 'pwane', jets at high altitude have left these trails. As I got older, I used to call them 'skyscrapers' because the plane was scraping the sky. At some point in my early age, I learned that a skyscraper was a building (still not sure how they got buildings to fly back then ;) )

Those trails were there well before the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Also, on the days after 911 while aircraft were grounded, these trails were non-existent....why? Because no large aircrafter were flying at the high altitude.

More Here
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Interesting. Thanks for information but I cannot invest my trust in cnn's source. I rarely do. But with your last statement, it does make sense...

To be honest, I grew up in the old place where airforce base nearby (my dad worked at there).. I never see these trails (I mean, whenever airforces flew by)... not even once. Until I moved in different state for few years and I saw the trails from airforces frequently than I thought. There are numbers of articles in the newspaper complaining about higher rate of coughs, common colds, flus, etc etc.. Every time there is the 'trail', people start to complain about these common flus, virus, etc etc.. The local articles mentioned about it time to time. I am not sure about these... but one thing is that I know for sure that I never see the trails when I grew up near airforce base. *shrugs*

Again, thanks for info and link.
 
The trails that come from jets is at a high level in the atmosphere and this would be why you don't see them near the airforce base...the planes are too low. We are talking high in the atmosphere with temperature extremes. I live in close proximity to BWI, National Dulles and Andrews Airforce base. None of the planes that are flying in/out of these airports are leaving trails at these altitudes...its the planes that are passing high (and I mean very high) overhead that causes this. Compare it to seeing your breath when you walk outside in wintertime. The same principles apply but on a grander scale. The trails start off very thin but are the seeds to clouds (and that is what they become....just in a trail shape). Its moisture that is attracting to some other particle that causes this to form a cloud. It can be dust or exhaust or any number of things.
 
Alright, your post made sense... I still am not sure how far or close the air forces flew by where I grew up in. I guess I will have to ask my dad to refresh my memory.

Thanks for detailed explanation.
 
magastu

Magatsu said:
I have been thinking about you a lot the last few days. You see, we don't know each other very well, although I've heard a lot about you, I don't think we've ever actually met. But then, that is most often the case for many of those I have "met" over the internet. You've been on my mind because you have made several visits the last two days to my most recent web page. You know the one, it's pretty much like this one, pictures of illegal aerosol activity over Houston.

I don't check out all my hits. There's been over 4000 on that page since it went up. But, I do grab 20 every now and then, to see who's there. Geez, you've been there a bunch! I'm flattered, truly. Yep, you, and NASA about 11 times and Boeing about 7, but then again, they come to my site more than I do... and many other interesting folks, from all over the world have been hanging out there a lot since Sunday night. This is you, right? 63.162.143.21 Yep, I'm sure it was you.

It was really kind of weird...I mentioned to a couple of folks at work today that y'all had been stopping by the page. You know what they did? They asked me if I was scared! Now, isn't that the silliest thing you have ever heard?!?! Why should I be SCARED of my government? Especially the Dept. of Homeland Security, for crying out loud.... aren't you supposed to be making me more secure? That's what I thought. Why would I be afraid of that?

So... I figured, since you were so interested, I'd write. I don't have your email address though, and you haven't written me, which you are most certainly welcome to do so if you have any questions about the pictures, or my research or why these operations are so absolutely WRONG. I've been checking into this for over 5 years, as you know, so I'm pretty well versed on the subject. I'd love to chat with you about it. I'll bring snacks. Anyway, I'm sure you'll be able to reach me if you want to, and since this is where you first found out about the page, I figured I could catch you here.

I always enjoy meeting folks and discussing this subject with others who are concerned for the safety and welfare of the citizens of this great nation, as I know YOU are. And don't ya LOVE the internet??? For example, I've just "met" several people the last few days since my pictures of the illegal aerosol operations over Houston pics were posted on the net Sunday night. I have gotten some letters from all over the country, even from England and Italy, some of them very sad. I love to hear from folks, but it's kind of hard to deal with their stress. I know where they're coming from. One thing is, ALL of the letters have the same concerns I do about the use of this technology without informed consent, environmental impact studies or want to know why our tax dollars are being spent on this without our knowledge or permission. Also, the health effects that are showing up because of this stuff. Some of the folks who wrote have sent me their own pictures, like this one below, from North Carolina. It was much worse there that day than here. I guess that's because we have so much normal air traffic over Houston, it's hard to get good coverage sometimes. But they give it their best shot.

So anyway...since you've been dropping by so much the last few days, you are probably getting tired of looking at those same pictures. But guess what!?!?!? Just this very day, operations continued over Houston, and guess what else?? I took MORE pictures. I figure you would appreciate a fresh set to look at, and I am more than happy to oblige. I wasn't able to get as many or capture the activity as often as Sunday, because I had to work today, but I thought I'd do what I could to help you out. As you'll see, the end result was the same. A crapped up sky.

So, here they are...but before I get to them, let me thank you. Because, I am sure that you, and the other nice government agencies and corporations, are coming to my site because they too are concerned about what these programs are doing to all of us, yep, you too. Barium and Aluminum do not discriminate, they're heavy metals, they have no brains. They make everyone sick. Doesn't matter what political affiliation one has or has not. Not to mention what the programs are doing to the water and the soil. And have you noticed the weird weather? Think about it.

So...thanks again for stopping by. You can count on me to keep you up to date regarding the Houston area. I think it's the most Patriotic Act I could do. (like the pun?) Seriously though, I'm really glad you visited. I love to find things in common with others on the net. And gee, I'm trying to fight terrorism too... isn't that neat?!?! Stop by the site anytime, afterall, we're in this together...right? And I know that you, like me, have the best interests of our fellow countrymen, their families and children at heart........don't we????
So here's today in Houston, TX, starting at about 8:30 am and going until 3pm.
And in case you want to reach me, my email addy is at the bottom.

Source: http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/dec1201.htm (there are some pictures. check it out)


Interesting... Very interesting.
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did you write this up or where did you get your facts. my facts is that i have lots of aircraft mechanic and pilots, they told me those clouds where picked up by those jet engine and throw out thats what made those lines, if a bird flies front of it it will be thrown out of the jet engine same way with clouds. Can you tell me where you got those fact that there are stuff in the air or where that stuff is coming from your webbsite doesnt tell me, So can you enlighten me on that thanks .
 
You are right

Taylor said:
The trails that come from jets is at a high level in the atmosphere and this would be why you don't see them near the airforce base...the planes are too low. We are talking high in the atmosphere with temperature extremes. I live in close proximity to BWI, National Dulles and Andrews Airforce base. None of the planes that are flying in/out of these airports are leaving trails at these altitudes...its the planes that are passing high (and I mean very high) overhead that causes this. Compare it to seeing your breath when you walk outside in wintertime. The same principles apply but on a grander scale. The trails start off very thin but are the seeds to clouds (and that is what they become....just in a trail shape). Its moisture that is attracting to some other particle that causes this to form a cloud. It can be dust or exhaust or any number of things.
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Also remeber cold weather causes engine exausted not fumes, but you know how when you start your car in cold weather first at cold your exhaust blows white smoke ytill it warms up, exactly what those aircraft now when it warm they will also pick up clouds thru the jet engine that creates those lines too so what is magastu talking about the webbsite he told us go to ,What are you talking about that doesnt tell me anything in Houston is that a big deal or what.
 
harleymn said:
did you write this up or where did you get your facts. my facts is that i have lots of aircraft mechanic and pilots, they told me those clouds where picked up by those jet engine and throw out thats what made those lines, if a bird flies front of it it will be thrown out of the jet engine same way with clouds. Can you tell me where you got those fact that there are stuff in the air or where that stuff is coming from your webbsite doesnt tell me, So can you enlighten me on that thanks .
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Uhh. Did you check the source? Where did I said that I wrote it? Please reread the statement and check the source.

I posted what I found and open for discuss. Nothing more.
 
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no you

need to reread again i asked you a question first, still havent answered it. thats all iam asking .
 
harleymn said:
need to reread again i asked you a question first, still havent answered it. thats all iam asking .
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*sigh* I said reread my statement and source in my first post. Click this link: http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=242767&postcount=1

Again, reread. Where did I said that I wrote the statements in my post? I don't have to answer your question because I already answer your question that I did not.. I repeat: I did not write that statements. Now is it clear for you?

Edit: As I said in my previous post, I posted what I found and open for discussion. That's all. Taylor already clear it up about this issue.
 
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