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I move your post from Candybrowneyes´ thread over here to aviod :topic:

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OK, so let me get this straight. I am trying my best to avoid to make further argument with you here..

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Liebling - I have never said that you should get out of AD just because you're a foreigner.

Did I mention your name? Remember, you are not alone, I’m referring to in Candybrowneyes´ thread.

Do you remember that you posted insult picture toward me in my lock thread? That´s form of interpretation telling me to get out and leave America alone...http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/62357-gop-govs-consider-rejecting-stimulus-money-2.html I pressed bad report on you to Moderator, after that we got banned because of this, that´s thread moderator linked us via PM.

*Description of the picture for Deafblind to read*

#YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP#
picture of soldier get out of plane and few planes fly.
#WE'LL PROTECT AMERICA#
'Keep out of our way, Liberal Pussies*


I see the way of interpretation picture, that´s why I asked Admin. & moderators to consider to add international or anti-foreign in AllDeaf Rules No. 1.

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I'm a foreigner too.

You are an US citizen.

Jiro´s postYou misunderstood my post so I'll clarify for you again. Of course everybody has a different POV and everybody is welcomed to say their piece.

No I understood perfectly that’s just we interpreted our posts in differently way. We have different philosophical logic on our posts.

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However... most importantly - you should look at yourself first when you defend your own POV or personal belief. What I meant about that is that just by working for and getting paid by US Government, that does not earn you the rights to say horrible thing about US Government with NO PROOF. I completely understand your personal belief and I do admire your respect and Mother Teresa-like love for all life but... problem is - you cannot argue about your POV or personal belief if you work for those who are against your personal belief. Do you understand what I'm saying, Liebling? I you for sharing us with links about American affairs but the way you say about our country and government - you crossed the line. What made it worse is that you're a hypocrite. If you work for German government or any other organization, then YES you can say ANYTHING you want to say about US government/military. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

Is it form of debate agreement to disagreement to use my job as a feeble excuse to support your fallacious argument against mine? My answer is No but bash me because you haven´t find anything to support your own POV against mine.

I wish you could understand that I oppose Iraq war for some reasons which is not same thing as the good human beings who serve in the military or work for military base.

Horrible? How? Is it horrible that I don’t support bad people in the military, who commit the crime/murder? The public news are everywhere. It’s not about US Military but a human being who serve in the military base, commit the crime and illegal.

No Proof? How? I have no reason to make up the stories since there’re dozen of proofs against Bush & Co. The public is everywhere in the many countries around the world, also TV interviews and US politic on German TV as well… No proofs... It’s bad that some people are on Government’s side against people’s life experience. Example of all, would you still call “No Proof” when you know from the reliable media that Bush & Co. admitted that they authorize form of torture?

I’m sorry if you feel being insult by my posts, I shared the news from Germany about US news on TV.

Yes, we have the right to view and criticize, no matter which Government we work for or live in. Is your opinion that I should say that Bush is a wonderful president & too good to soldiers and honest to his own people and the world? It would make me hypocrite if I fake those word to defend a person who did something wrong?… Flattery is my pet peeves.

FYI: I don’t hate Bush, don’t write nasty letter to Bush, don’t booed Bush and don’t post horrible pictures of Bush but criticize him for what and how he done. Oh yes, I wish Bush well if he is ill or whatever.

:ty: for nice compliment but for your information, I am Liebling, not Mother Teresa. Don’t you know that there’re VFP, MFSO and IVAW organization for the families, soldiers and veterans?

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lastly - I do understand that you do get angry because my post was harsh toward you and I apologize for that.

Apology acceptance.

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But you have to understand that I respond in the same manner as you. Here's a good advice -

No, we have total different manner way to response our posts each other. You & I have different philosophical logic to make our posts.

Refer to Byrdie's post from old thread –

:ty: for post Byrdie’s post.

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Let's have a good time, shall we? :wave:

Do you think it work? From read your response posts in Candybrowneyes´ thread, I doubt it works on us because you haven´t change your view over my job. I know for the sure, you will keep on use my job to insult me in debate threads because you don´t have anything to support your argument POV against me. Where´s mature agree to disagree on something instead of see in me as a foreigner or my job? You & I both are stubborn and have different view on Gitmo, US polities and Iraq war issues. Our stubborn would lead us to banishment again. I’m straightforward person & can post anyone’s POV like I did since 2004. They did not use my job when they know what kind of job I work since 2004 until last year. Yes I know that you are not alone, but a few ADers as well. I consider to have my resign AllDeaf Forum to avoid banishment, avoid more drama in Alex’s Forum if you continue to use my job as an excuse to bash me... it make me provoke you in return... which is no good.

I´m going to test you here either our future debate works or not.

Would it insult you if I tell you what I saw from Obama´s speech yesterday about school and no heating - what and how I saw the film of the school, the teacher and students wear extra coats and gloves to warm them up during lesson because heat boiler is facture. It´s not first time, they said? I criticising Bush for that how shame Bush is to neglect his own people to depend billions on war issues. Does it insult on you?

I saw your posts with other ADers today in Candybrowneyes´ thread.. It´s an exact what I told you in my lock thread.

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Liebling is free to rant no matter who she works for. And your demands of what others must do and must not do is exactly what everyone here is objecting to. You are showing a complete lack of respect for others, and yet feel free to demand that your opinion be respected. Talk about hypocritical.

Really, Jiro, you need to sweep your own front porch before you attempt to sweep any one else's.

thanks God Sarah Palin isn't our Vice President, huh?
 
She works in the canteen, she's not in a military role.

Good grief.

big picture - she's in business of war machine. is it hypocritical of an anti-war nurse to care for wounded soldiers until they're healthy and well-enough to go back to war and kill some more?
 
What exactly does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

"you need to sweep your own front porch before you attempt to sweep any one else's."
 
big picture - she's in business of war machine. is it hypocritical of an anti-war nurse to care for wounded soldiers until they're healthy and well-enough to go back to war and kill some more?

Because her medical ethics would supercede her obligation to her employer, the answer is no.
 
Are you having difficulty understanding the analogy?

and are you conveniently ignoring the hypocrisy behind her action? it's nice of you to defend Liebling but sorry nice try.
 
Because her medical ethics would supercede her obligation to her employer, the answer is no.

uh... she isn't forced to work for them. She can simply work for Peace Corps/Red Cross or refugee camp for war victims
 
and are you conveniently ignoring the hypocrisy behind her action? it's nice of you to defend Liebling but sorry nice try.

No, dear Jiro, I am pointing out the hypocracy of your own actions.
 
Has anyone seen my post #132 at the other thread? Or do I need to bring it over here?
 
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