'Open Carry' Law Contoversy: Gun Owner Cited

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VANCOUVER, Wash. - A Vancouver man was cited Friday for wearing his pistol in a grocery store even though it’s legal to carry a gun in Washington and Oregon.

The incident is part of a growing controversy over what’s called the “Open Carry” law and highlights the debate over people openly wearing firearms in public places.

While police said it is legal in Washington and Oregon to openly carry firearms in public places, Kurt Kirby was ticketed by Vancouver Police on Friday outside an Albertsons on East 4th Plain after shopping with his loaded semiautomatic pistol holstered on his waist.

The owner of the nearby martial arts studio called 9-1-1, and according to the police report, the owner was alarmed because he teaches small children and was concerned for their safety.

The police officer cited Kirby under the law that says it is wrong to carry a weapon if it “manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.”

Gun rights advocates said there has been an increase in “open carry” cases in response to gun control groups that have tried to pressure Starbucks to forbid guns in its stores.

“I think that people who believe in open carry say, ‘we’re going to have a reaction to that reaction, and … we’re going to carry more openly and more often,” said Cliff Nutting, a gun rights activist.

Kirby declined to speak to the media Monday on advice from his attorney, but according to the police report, Kirby told officers he’s openly carried his gun into several stores in recent months without a problem.

But according to the police report, the day before being cited Kirby had a run-in with security at the Vancouver Mall. He and his wife were escorted from the mall by security after shoppers complained about their weapons strapped to their waists.

According to the police report, the Kirbys were belligerent, perhaps trying to argue that they were not breaking any laws.

According to opencarry.org, 43 states allow some form of open carry.

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eh that citation will get thrown out. If not.... expect NRA muscle to roll in like what they did for those 2 law-abiding citizens in NYC/NJ :cool2:
 
The irony is, people are more afraid of the guns they can see than the guns that they can't see. Do the store owners know who is carrying a concealed weapon, legal or otherwise?
 
Bunch of commie pussies.

"OMG! He's wearing a gun!!!" *Defecates and urinates themselves*

We're rollin' back to the days that kids used to go to school on horsebacks wearing their sidearms and rifles on their horsepacks.

Responsible kids in school hanged their guns on the coat racks along with the coats and hats. When coming home from school, if instructed by their parent, shoots a small game to take home for dinner.

Crime was rarely heard of in their towns because everyone was armed and criminals thought twice before robbing a bank or sticking someone up while taking a risk of the townspeople aiming their guns at the criminal all at once.

So today, we're taking back our rights under the Constitution to bear arms.

Yiz
 
Bunch of commie pussies.

"OMG! He's wearing a gun!!!" *Defecates and urinates themselves*

We're rollin' back to the days that kids used to go to school on horsebacks wearing their sidearms and rifles on their horsepacks.

Responsible kids in school hanged their guns on the coat racks along with the coats and hats. When coming home from school, if instructed by their parent, shoots a small game to take home for dinner.

Crime was rarely heard of in their towns because everyone was armed and criminals thought twice before robbing a bank or sticking someone up while taking a risk of the townspeople aiming their guns at the criminal all at once.

So today, we're taking back our rights under the Constitution to bear arms.

Yiz

unfortunately..... those good ole' life was replaced by cars, supermarkets, and security cameras & well-equipped police officers.
 
If I had to, I'd much rather conceal carry than open....why do some people OC?
 
I agree with Jiro, those good ol'days are gone. We can't back it all up, we have moved forward. Everything is more complicated these days.
 
unfortunately..... those good ole' life was replaced by cars, supermarkets, and security cameras & well-equipped police officers.

And some well equipped police officers aren't without stupidity & corruption. So it's up to us to be well informed of our rights as law abiding citizens.

Yiz
 
And some well equipped police officers aren't without stupidity & corruption. So it's up to us to be well informed of our rights as law abiding citizens.

Yiz

some law-abiding citizens aren't without stupidity and corruption too. I guess it's up to Santa to know who will be placed on naughty list.
 
If I had to, I'd much rather conceal carry than open....why do some people OC?
Conceal is my preference too, but I suppose there could be occasions when I would prefer to carry in open. It is good to have that option available.

Of course, when we transport our long guns they are in view in our vehicle, and when we take them out of our vehicle to and from the range and our house. So far, none of our neighbors have freaked out. :lol:
 
As long y'all don't do what Homer Simpson did... everything should go just dandy fine.
 
If I had to, I'd much rather conceal carry than open....why do some people OC?


Both are great. Concealed weapons are great for defense. The theory behind OC is that you may not have to defend because people won't mess with you.
 
Conceal is my preference too, but I suppose there could be occasions when I would prefer to carry in open. It is good to have that option available.

Of course, when we transport our long guns they are in view in our vehicle, and when we take them out of our vehicle to and from the range and our house. So far, none of our neighbors have freaked out. :lol:

I like to freak out the people at Barnes and Noble by grabbing a Glenn Beck book and a few rifle magazines to read while drinking a Frapp:lol:
 
I like to freak out the people at Barnes and Noble by grabbing a Glenn Beck book and a few rifle magazines to read while drinking a Frapp:lol:
Are you wearing an NRA cap, too? :lol:
 
I like to freak out the people at Barnes and Noble by grabbing a Glenn Beck book and a few rifle magazines to read while drinking a Frapp:lol:
funny story - when I went to DC last weekend, I was wearing a military-like jacket, carrying a bag with big "NRA" print, and I actually had a survivalist's book with me to read. It's the same book that I recommended for Stein. I didn't finish it.

But after a brief talk with my friend, I decided that it's best not to agitate my bus neighbor so I simply took a nap :lol:
 
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