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DALLAS — Racing to see his dying mother-in-law at a Plano hospital, an NFL player found himself delayed by a Dallas officer as her life ebbed away. It's a story that has sparked outrage across North Texas and generated interest around the country.

Dallas police Chief David Kunkle faced reporters Thursday afternoon to express his embarrassment over the incident and to publicly apologize to the family. He said the officer involved failed to use common sense.

It all started in the early morning hours of March 17. With his wife and another woman in the car, Ryan Moats — a running back for the Houston Texans — sped his car toward Baylor Regional Medical Center of Plano. But when the Moats arrived at emergency room parking lot, they were stopped by Officer Robert Powell, who reportedly drew his service revolver on the concerned family members.

Dashcam video from the Dallas officer's patrol car captured the incident.

"Get in there," Officer Powell yelled out to Tamishia Moats, Ryan's wife, as she exited the car. "Let me see your hands. Get in there. Put your hands on the car."

"Excuse me; my mom is dying," Tamisha Moats replied.

She and the other woman ignored Officer Powell's commands and rushed inside the hospital to her dying mother as Ryan Moats and Officer Powell went back-and-forth over insurance paperwork the NFL player was unable to locate.

MOATS: "I've got seconds before she's gone, man."

POWELL: "Listen: If I can't verify you have insurance..."

MOATS: "My mother-in-law is dying!"

POWELL: "Listen to me."

MOATS: "Right now, you're wasting my time."

POWELL: "If you can't verify you have insurance, I'm going to tow your car. So, you either find it or I am going to tow the car."

As they argued, the officer got irritated.

POWELL: "Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. You can either settle down and cooperate, or I can just take you to jail for running a red light."DALLAS — Racing to see his dying mother-in-law at a Plano hospital, an NFL player found himself delayed by a Dallas officer as her life ebbed away. It's a story that has sparked outrage across North Texas and generated interest around the country.

Dallas police Chief David Kunkle faced reporters Thursday afternoon to express his embarrassment over the incident and to publicly apologize to the family. He said the officer involved failed to use common sense.

It all started in the early morning hours of March 17. With his wife and another woman in the car, Ryan Moats — a running back for the Houston Texans — sped his car toward Baylor Regional Medical Center of Plano. But when the Moats arrived at emergency room parking lot, they were stopped by Officer Robert Powell, who reportedly drew his service revolver on the concerned family members.

Dashcam video from the Dallas officer's patrol car captured the incident.

"Get in there," Officer Powell yelled out to Tamishia Moats, Ryan's wife, as she exited the car. "Let me see your hands. Get in there. Put your hands on the car."

"Excuse me; my mom is dying," Tamisha Moats replied.

She and the other woman ignored Officer Powell's commands and rushed inside the hospital to her dying mother as Ryan Moats and Officer Powell went back-and-forth over insurance paperwork the NFL player was unable to locate.

MOATS: "I've got seconds before she's gone, man."

POWELL: "Listen: If I can't verify you have insurance..."

MOATS: "My mother-in-law is dying!"

POWELL: "Listen to me."

MOATS: "Right now, you're wasting my time."

POWELL: "If you can't verify you have insurance, I'm going to tow your car. So, you either find it or I am going to tow the car."

As they argued, the officer got irritated.

POWELL: "Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. You can either settle down and cooperate, or I can just take you to jail for running a red light."

"I certainly hope anybody who saw the videotape immediately understood how serious the misconduct is," Chief Kunkle said Thursday afternoon. "I don't know how you train for these circumstances other than to hire people with good common sense and people skills."

In a telephone interview, Moats said the clash with the officer was totally unexpected. "For him to not even be sympathetic at all, and basically we're dogs or something and we don't matter — it basically shocked me," he said.

No compassion was indicated in the police recording of the incident. "I can screw you over," Officer Powell said. "I would rather not do that. You obviously will dictate everything that happens; and right now, your attitude sucks."

"My understanding is that Officer Powell — even after he saw the videotape — believed he had not acted inappropriately," Chief Kunkle said, a view that was underscored by Assistant Chief Floyd Simpson, who reviewed the tape with Officer Powell on Wednesday.

"His belief was simply that he was doing his job," Chief Simpson said. "It did concern me that it just seemed that the compassion was not there."

The hospital twice sent nurses to try and get the officer to release Moats.

"We're blue-coding her for the third time," a nurse said on the police videotape.

A Plano police officer stopped to make a plea for the officer to let Moats go. "Hey, that's the nurse," the Plano officer said. "She says the mom is dying right now, and she wants to know if I can get him up there."

Finally, after a 20-minute delay, the officer ticketed Moats for running a red light.

By the time Moats made it up to the emergency room, his mother-in-law was dead.

"I went up after she passed and held her hand, but she was already gone," Moats said in a telephone interview.

Dallas police have launched a review of the incident.

“When it came to our attention, we immediately called for an internal investigation to be done,” said police spokesman Lt. Andy Havey.

"The essence of being a police officer is common sense and discretion," Chief Kunkle added. "I can't imagine a worse circumstance."

WFAA.com has received more than 400 comments about the incident since the story first aired on Channel 8 Wednesday night.

Chief: Officer's behavior at hospital 'very embarrassing'

That's a shame and the delay has cost the mother her life. :(

This probably will bring a lawsuit to this case.
 
Stupid cop. :roll:

Hate it when they think they are above the law.
 
Well, she was dying, so it did not cost her life.

It cost the man the ability to say goodbye.

Hopefully there will be some sensitivity training of the police force.
 
By the time Moats made it up to the emergency room, his mother-in-law was dead.

"I went up after she passed and held her hand, but she was already gone," Moats said in a telephone interview.


How sad. :(

I hope this officer is given a severe punishment for his lack of compassion and understanding. Shame on him.
 
I hadn't chimed in yet on this...

Stupid cop.

Hate it when they think they are above the law.
Stupid move, yes.
Saw nothing that would indicate the officer thought himself above the law though.

It cost the man the ability to say goodbye.
Exactly what I thought, and sad.

As far as sensitivity training, I do not know what that would help.


From my perspective:
We have people who are stopped claiming some of the wildest of things to try to get out of a ticket. We do become jaded.

Here is how I have handled this:

I have kept the persons license, allowed them to proceed to the hospital, and if they indeed were going to a legit emergency and did not harm anyone or property I have let them go with the usual warning "If you get into a crash on the way here you would not be any help to your loved one" , handed them back their license and left.

I have had a few though that were not on their way to a legit emergency - they got the ticket.
 
From my perspective:
We have people who are stopped claiming some of the wildest of things to try to get out of a ticket. We do become jaded.


The difference is that this individual had several nurses confirm the fact that his mother in law was dying as evidenced by the following statement: "The hospital twice sent nurses to try and get the officer to release Moats."
 
It is a shame....

Officers do need to realize to put life ahead of law...

They should have allowed the family to pursue to get the "Mother" or "Mother in Law" in medical care. Before deciding whether he wanted to give a fine or whatnot.


Shame on that COP!!

He could have called for back up to alert other officers of the situation. He could have allowed the family members to go ahead and do what they needed to do to take care of the "mother in law" Or to say their respectful goodbyes. It is not like they were going to run..

Who knows. She may have been considered Dead... But the time, could have cost them to be able to revive her. (that small chance) The cop took from her, and the family by wasting time.
 
Cop disciplined after threatening NFL player

Officer told Moats 'I can screw you over' despite pleas to see dying relative

PLANO, Texas - A police officer was placed on administrative leave Thursday over a traffic stop involving an NFL player whom he kept in a hospital parking lot and threatened to arrest while his mother-in-law died inside the building.

Officer Robert Powell also drew his gun during the March 18 incident involving Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats in the Dallas suburb of Plano, police said.

“I can screw you over,” he said at one point in the videotaped incident. When another officer came with word that Moats’ mother-in-law was indeed dying, Powell’s response was: “All right. I’m almost done.”

Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle apologized to the family and announced that Powell would be on paid leave pending an internal investigation.

“When we at the command staff reviewed the tape, we were embarrassed, disappointed,” Kunkle said. “It’s hard to find the right word and still be professional in my role as the police chief. But the behavior was not appropriate.”

Powell, 25, a three-year member of the force, stopped Moats’ SUV outside Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano after Moats rolled through a red light.

Police officials said Powell told his commanders he believed he was doing his job, and that he drew his gun but did not point it. Kunkle said Powell was not necessarily acting improperly when he pulled his weapon out, but that once he realized what was happening should have put the gun back, apologized and offered to help the family in any way.

“His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, the discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit,” Kunkle said.

Moats’ wife, who was in the car along with other relatives, said Powell pointed his weapon at her.

“He was pointing a gun at me as soon as I got out of the car,” Tamishia Moats told The Dallas Morning News.

Ryan Moats told KRLD-FM in Dallas in a phone interview Thursday that after the officer pointed the gun at his wife, he pointed it at him. “I just tried to stay as still as possible to not scare him or do anything to make him react,” he said.

He earlier told the newspaper he thought Powell should be fired but backed off that in his radio interview.

“All I know is what he did was wrong,” Moats said. “He stole a moment away from me that I can never get back. I’m really not the judge on what should happen to him.”

The Moats family did not immediately return messages left by The Associated Press. Powell did not respond to requests for comment through the Dallas police union.

Video from a dashboard camera inside the officer’s vehicle, obtained by Dallas-Fort Worth station WFAA-TV, revealed an intense exchange in which the officer threatened to jail Moats.

He ordered Tamishia Moats, 27, to get back in the SUV, but after pausing for a few seconds, she and another woman rushed into the hospital. She was by the side of her mother, 45-year-old Jonetta Collinsworth, when she died a short time later from breast cancer.

“Get in there,” said Powell, yelling at Tamishia Moats as she exited the vehicle. “Let me see your hands!”

“Excuse me, my mom is dying,” Tamishia Moats said. “Do you understand?”

Ryan Moats explained that he waited until there was no traffic before proceeding through the red light. When Powell asked for proof of insurance, Moats grew more agitated and told the officer to go find it.

“My mother-in-law is dying! Right now! You’re wasting my time!” Moats yelled. “I don’t understand why you can’t understand that.”

As they argued, the officer got irritated.

“Shut your mouth,” the officer said. “You can either settle down and cooperate or I can just take you to jail for running a red light.”

By the time the 26-year-old NFL player received a ticket and a lecture from Powell, about 13 minutes had passed. When he and Collinsworth’s father entered the hospital, they learned Collinsworth was dead.

Kunkle said the video showed that Moats and his wife “exercised extraordinary patience, restraint in dealing with the behavior of our officer.”

“At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration,” Kunkle said. “He handled himself very, very well.”The Moats family, who are black, said they can’t help but think that race might have played a part in the white officer’s behavior.

“I think he should lose his job,” Ryan Moats said.

When the exchange was at its most contentious, Powell said he could tow Moats’ SUV if he didn’t have insurance and that he could arrest him for fleeing because he didn’t immediately stop when Powell turned on his sirens. The pursuit lasted a little more than a minute.

“I can screw you over,” Powell said. “I’d rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens.”

The ticket issued to Moats was dismissed, Dallas police spokesman Lt. Andy Harvey said.

Texans spokesman Kevin Cooper said the team had no comment.

Moats, a third-round draft choice of the Philadelphia Eagles in 2005 out of Louisiana Tech, was cut by the Eagles in August and later signed with the Texans. In three seasons as a backup, he’s rushed for 441 yards and scored four touchdowns.

He was a standout at Bishop Lynch High School, a private school in Dallas, rushing for more than 2,600 yards and 33 touchdowns as a senior.


Dallas cop detained NFL player as relative died
 
“At no time did Mr. Moats identify himself as an NFL football player or expect any kind of special consideration,” Kunkle said. “He handled himself very, very well.”The Moats family, who are black, said they can’t help but think that race might have played a part in the white officer’s behavior.


OH that Statement just pisses me off. It is like the officer saying. "oh if i knew you were a famous person...I would have treated this differently"

No matter who you are! No matter if you are poor, rich, famous, or any other!

People should not be treated differently.. My Goodness! They were in the front of the E.R.

What should that tell an officer!

What an Idiot!! He should not even be allowed to be on "paid" Leave!!!

I sure hope when he is found guilty of being a such an ass to this family... He will have to pay them the restitution fees... And the $$$ that he collected on the "Paid Leave" back to the Tax payers funds.
 
I've said this same thing last year over and over regarding situation with cop.

Rule #1 - CALMLY COOPERATE and everything will be fine. Try your BEST to remain calm and COOPERATE! No matter what your situation is.... your action determines the officer's next course of action. Officer repeatedly told him to calm down but the football player continued to be agitated.

Yes this situation was very very unfortunate.... but I see no wrong on officer's part. I'm sorry but many cops have been killed or injured in the line of duty simply because the drivers were agitated.

Read the exact quote - "I can screw you over," Powell said. "I'd rather not do that. Your attitude will dictate everything that happens." Walk a mile in officer's shoes on daily basis... and you'll understand. However - I do agree that race might have played a part in the white officer’s behavior... :dunno:
 
I sure hope when he is found guilty of being a such an ass to this family... He will have to pay them the restitution fees... And the $$$ that he collected on the "Paid Leave" back to the Tax payers funds.
I'm not sure what you mean by restitution.
As far as paid leave, that is a union issue when an officer is under investigation for wrong-doing either breaking a rule or violating a law.
His employer cannot legally restrict his pay unless or until he is found guilty of a violation of policy or the law and then they can only issue progressive discipline.

OH that Statement just pisses me off. It is like the officer saying. "oh if i knew you were a famous person...I would have treated this differently"

No matter who you are! No matter if you are poor, rich, famous, or any other!
I believe that was a supervisors statement.
It should make you go Hmmm because if it had not been a football player and just a guy it probably wouldn't have made the paper at all.

Walk a mile in officer's shoes on daily basis..
sadly no one wants to do that Jiro, it would ruin the ability to prejudge
 
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I just saw the police video. The cop is TOTALLY not in wrong in this unfortunate situation. When people got out of car and walked all over, ignoring officer's order, that made cop VERY VERY NERVOUS especially when he's alone. Believe me - I would be too and I'd be very very pissed if nobody's complying with my direct order.

Police Officers are trained to control the situation and then find out what's going on. They were not making it easy for him and the officer's stress & fear skyrocketed. It's easy for you to point finger at cop and say - "wtf? get a baton out of your ass! stop being so uptight!" That's because you know what's happening NOW but the cop didn't at that time. The way I see it from cop's video - it looks like they were trying to get away or distract the cop so that the drug dealer can discard the drugs. But when the big guy showed up, it looks like he may have a gun. and yes cop's common sense got erred when the security guard and nurse came by to tell the cop to let him go but still.... cop must control the situation and verify the whole situation - CALMLY COOPERATE AND COMPLY WITH OFFICER'S INSTRUCTION. Nobody did so... therefore cop is not in wrong. It doesn't matter if your mama is dying or not. It does not absolve you from breaking the law (running thru red light at high speed) either.

Remember - his life's always on the line whenever he's on duty. Think about the stress that he gets when waking up every morning to work.... not knowing if he will come home to his family after work.... like Oakland cops. I hope they cleared him of any wrongdoing.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by restitution.
As far as paid leave, that is a union issue when an officer is under investigation for wrong-doing either breaking a rule or violating a law.
His employer cannot legally restrict his pay unless or until he is found guilty of a violation of policy or the law and then they can only issue progressive discipline.
I agree... Civil suet will follow. If he is found of wrong doing.


I believe that was a supervisors statement.
It should make you go Hmmm because if it had not been a football player and just a guy it probably wouldn't have made the paper at all.


:hmm: Makes one wonder about that.


sadly no one wants to do that Jiro, it would ruin the ability to prejudge

I can understand walking in an officers shoes in front of the Hospital.

But it was not like a shooting was reported or other crimes. This was simply over a family member dying.
 
Originally Posted by Jiro
The cop is TOTALLY not in wrong in this unfortunate situation.

I can't believe you're defending the behavior of this officer, Jiro.

Do you really expect someone to be calm in this kind of situation? How would YOU react if you were in this individual's shoes?

Apparently, the department thought this officer was out of line since they have taken action against him and are conducting an investigation.

This officer had an ego the size of Texas and totally obliterated any sense of decency he might (emphasis on the word might) have.
 
the officer in question should have handled it differently when he realized the situation at hand. otherwise he didnt know what he was getting into. anytime an officer makes a stop or responds to a call he does not know what hes getting into and must protect himself! we had an officer get killed and another shot on a 911 hang up call. as soon as the first officer stepped out of his car he was shot in the head and the 2nd was shot 3 times in the chest but his vest saved him. ill post links and part of the info below. unless you know what its like to respond to a call and the dangers involved STFU!:mad2:


Deputy Sheriff Adam William Klutz, Caldwell County Sheriff's Office
Deputy Sheriff Adam William Klutz
Caldwell County Sheriff's Office
North Carolina
End of Watch: Friday, September 19, 2008

Biographical Info
Age: 25
Tour of Duty: 1 year, 6 months
Badge Number: 154

Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Friday, September 19, 2008
Weapon Used: Gun; Unknown type
Suspect Info: Committed suicide

Deputy Adam Klutz was shot and killed while responding to a 911 hangup call on Fox Winkler Road.

Deputy Klutz was the first deputy on the scene and was shot as he exited his patrol car. He was transported to Caldwell Memorial Hospital, where he died from his injuries.

A second deputy who arrived a short time later was shot in the chest several times and wounded as he also exited his patrol car. His bullet proof vest saved his life. The suspect fled the scene.

Five days later, deputies searching for the suspect found him dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound on his property near Lenoir.

Deputy Klutz had served with the Caldwell County Sheriff's Office for one and a half years. He had previously worked at the Caldwell Detention Center for approximately one year and had served three months with the Hickory Police Department. He is survived by his parents.

News Article:
Police: Suspect In Deadly Deputy Shooting A War Veteran - Charlotte News Story - WSOC Charlotte
 
Originally Posted by Jiro
The cop is TOTALLY not in wrong in this unfortunate situation.

I can't believe you're defending the behavior of this officer, Jiro.

Do you really expect someone to be calm in this kind of situation? How would YOU react if you were in this individual's shoes?

Apparently, the department thought this officer was out of line since they have taken action against him and are conducting an investigation.

This officer had an ego the size of Texas and totally obliterated any sense of decency he might (emphasis on the word might) have.

Exactly!! Especially at the front door of a hospital!!

If the officer had a probical cause. Such as a crime was committed. Then I can see it.

But the officer did not want to see the fact that this family rushed to the hospital due to the fact a loved one that was dying.

No probrical cause to any other. The officer himself just found that the family is black.

Makes me wonder how the whole department would have found it if the " Suspect" was not a famious football player.

So sad!!

So ignorant of the officer.

And of the dept that the officer communicated with.

(for some reason I feel that I am misspelling the word problical).
:giggle: BOTTS!! Need a little help on a spell check! :wave:
 
Exactly!! Especially at the front door of a hospital!!

If the officer had a probical cause. Such as a crime was committed. Then I can see it.

But the officer did not want to see the fact that this family rushed to the hospital due to the fact a loved one that was dying.

No probrical cause to any other. The officer himself just found that the family is black.

Makes me wonder how the whole department would have found it if the " Suspect" was not a famious football player.

So sad!!

So ignorant of the officer.

And of the dept that the officer communicated with.

(for some reason I feel that I am misspelling the word problical).
:giggle: BOTTS!! Need a little help on a spell check! :wave:


Hi, there. "Probable?":hmm:
 
I can understand walking in an officers shoes in front of the Hospital.

But it was not like a shooting was reported or other crimes. This was simply over a family member dying.

you don't know that. Officer didn't either. Just because he pulled over at hospital doesn't mean it's a crystal-clear case. When you're a police officer for a long time, you will see all kind of clever tricks that drug suspect/criminal would pull just to get away.

it's very simple - COOPERATE and CALMLY explain your situation. stay in your vehicle. comply with officer's instruction. If you get agitated.... so will the cop. simple as that.
 
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