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Priest Bans Autistic Boy From Church
Mom Told She'd Be Sent to Jail if She Brought Autistic Son to Church

BERTHA, Minn.
May 19, 2008

A Catholic priest has filed a restraining order against the parents of a severely autistic 13-year-old boy in an effort to keep him from attending the church in Bertha on Sundays.

The Rev. Daniel Walz alleges that Adam Race's unruly behavior endangers others who attend the Church of St. Joseph.

Race's parents have ignored the restraining order, calling it discriminatory, and Carol Race, Adam's mother, was cited by police and is due to appear in court on Monday for violating the order.

"He said that we did not discipline our son. He said that our son was physically out of control and a danger to everyone at church," Carol Race said. "I can't discipline him out of his autism, and I think that's what our priest is expecting."

Carol Race said it all started last June, when Walz and a church trustee visited the Races at their home address the behavior of Adam, who stands taller than six feet and weighs more than 225 pounds.


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It seems Priest has gone a bit overboard in preventing Autistic boy from attending church, he should have other alternative such as small group or special session for autistic children to attend church. Everyone has a right to attend church no matter what handicap they have.
 
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BERTHA, Minn. (AP) - A Catholic priest has filed a restraining order against the parents of a severely autistic 13-year-old boy in an effort to keep him from attending the church in Bertha on Sundays.
The Rev. Daniel Walz alleges that Adam Race's unruly behavior endangers others who attend the Church of St. Joseph.
Race's parents have ignored the restraining order, calling it discriminatory, and Carol Race, Adam's mother, was cited by police and is due to appear in court on Monday for violating the order.
"He said that we did not discipline our son. He said that our son was physically out of control and a danger to everyone at church," Carol Race said. "I can't discipline him out of his autism, and I think that's what our priest is expecting."
Carol Race said it all started last June, when Walz and a church trustee visited the Races at their home address the behavior of Adam, who stands taller than six feet and weighs more than 225 pounds.
In an affidavit, Walz said the church "explored and offered many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. The family refused those offers of accommodation."
Carol Race said the family of seven, which has attended St. Joseph since 1996, typically sat in the cry room or in the back pew to keep avoid disrupting the services and did not hear a complaint from the parishioners until Walz showed up at their home in June.
Even after the restraining order was served, the family continued going to the church and would leave during the closing hymn to avoid contact with others, Carol Race said.
The Diocese of St. Cloud issued a statement saying the petition was filed "as a last resort out of a growing concern for the safety of parishioners and other community members due to disruptive and violent behavior on the part of that child."
Walz said the boy's behavior worsened over time, telling authorities that Adam has been "extremely disruptive and dangerous" since last summer.
According to Walz, Adam struck a child during mass, nearly knocks elderly parishioners over when he hastily exits the church, spits and sometimes urinates in church and fights when he is being restrained.
He also one time assaulted a girl by pulling her onto his lap and, during Easter mass, ran to the parking lot and got into two vehicles, starting them and revving the engine, Walz alleged.
"There were people directly in front of the car who could have been injured or killed if he had put the car in gear," Walz wrote.
Adam's parents have to sit on him and sometimes tie his hands and feet to get control of him, Walz wrote.
Carol Race has an answer to each complaint.
She said her son makes spitting faces but doesn't spit and acknowledged he has occasional problems with incontinence. She says that she and her husband sit on Adam because their weight calms him down, which is why he pulled the girl onto him.
She also said they do use soft straps to bind Adam's hands and feet on occasion because it calms him, as does the revving sound of engines, which is why he started the cars.
Some disability advocates are getting behind the Races.
"It's unfathomable and concerns me that we've taken a situation with special needs and we're making it into the criminal matter," said Brad Trahan, the founder of the RT Autism Awareness Foundation in Rochester, who has asked the bishop of St. Cloud to rescind the restraining order.
Carol Race just hopes the ugly back-and-forth doesn't tarnish the image of the church.
"The church isn't bad," she said. "But it's what some individuals do within the church."BERTHA, Minn. (AP) - A Catholic priest has filed a restraining order against the parents of a severely autistic 13-year-old boy in an effort to keep him from attending the church in Bertha on Sundays.
The Rev. Daniel Walz alleges that Adam Race's unruly behavior endangers others who attend the Church of St. Joseph.
Race's parents have ignored the restraining order, calling it discriminatory, and Carol Race, Adam's mother, was cited by police and is due to appear in court on Monday for violating the order.
"He said that we did not discipline our son. He said that our son was physically out of control and a danger to everyone at church," Carol Race said. "I can't discipline him out of his autism, and I think that's what our priest is expecting."
Carol Race said it all started last June, when Walz and a church trustee visited the Races at their home address the behavior of Adam, who stands taller than six feet and weighs more than 225 pounds.
In an affidavit, Walz said the church "explored and offered many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. The family refused those offers of accommodation."
Carol Race said the family of seven, which has attended St. Joseph since 1996, typically sat in the cry room or in the back pew to keep avoid disrupting the services and did not hear a complaint from the parishioners until Walz showed up at their home in June.
Even after the restraining order was served, the family continued going to the church and would leave during the closing hymn to avoid contact with others, Carol Race said.
The Diocese of St. Cloud issued a statement saying the petition was filed "as a last resort out of a growing concern for the safety of parishioners and other community members due to disruptive and violent behavior on the part of that child."
Walz said the boy's behavior worsened over time, telling authorities that Adam has been "extremely disruptive and dangerous" since last summer.
According to Walz, Adam struck a child during mass, nearly knocks elderly parishioners over when he hastily exits the church, spits and sometimes urinates in church and fights when he is being restrained.
He also one time assaulted a girl by pulling her onto his lap and, during Easter mass, ran to the parking lot and got into two vehicles, starting them and revving the engine, Walz alleged.
"There were people directly in front of the car who could have been injured or killed if he had put the car in gear," Walz wrote.
Adam's parents have to sit on him and sometimes tie his hands and feet to get control of him, Walz wrote.
Carol Race has an answer to each complaint.
She said her son makes spitting faces but doesn't spit and acknowledged he has occasional problems with incontinence. She says that she and her husband sit on Adam because their weight calms him down, which is why he pulled the girl onto him.
She also said they do use soft straps to bind Adam's hands and feet on occasion because it calms him, as does the revving sound of engines, which is why he started the cars.
Some disability advocates are getting behind the Races.
"It's unfathomable and concerns me that we've taken a situation with special needs and we're making it into the criminal matter," said Brad Trahan, the founder of the RT Autism Awareness Foundation in Rochester, who has asked the bishop of St. Cloud to rescind the restraining order.
Carol Race just hopes the ugly back-and-forth doesn't tarnish the image of the church.
"The church isn't bad," she said. "But it's what some individuals do within the church."

Source: Autistic boy banned from Minn. church
 
You know......I gotta say that I think that this is one boy who really needs to be insistutionalized.
I don't think that the priest is expecting the parents to disclipline him out of his autism. yet at the same time, it does seem like the parents are slightly in denial. Their son is a very severely affected person.
 
the kid has a right to go to church or whatever, but they have no obligation to bend over backwards to accommodate a hostile child. they're not discriminating based on autism. they're discriminating based on a kid beating people up and pissing on private property. i'm sure they're sorry about it but that doesn't mean they have to enjoy being bowled over by some hyped up kid.

the family should pull their heads out of their asses and think practically. they're a bunch of assholes for stubbornly bringing their son to church despite all the damage he's apparently doing. "BUT HOW ELSE IS HE GONNA GET GOD'S LOVE!?" they may ask. who the hell cares. read him the bible as a bedtime story. turn on some cheesy ass televangelist on sunday morning. it doesn't sound like he ever pays attention or gives half a crap about listening to the sermon anyway. and i'm sure the family can't worship when they sit in some back room while their kid screams and throws a tantrum for 3 hours.

if there is a god, he's not going to banish you to hell just because you didn't go to church every sunday. i'm sure it's the thought that counts.
 
That is why I am agnostic!

I don't believe in any bible, religious... They only are made up my man's mind.

The only thing I believe is God, and I don't believe God will ever tell a human being to tell other human being whats right nor wrong.

I believe Karma will take care of whoever make conscious wrong (not mistake).

Catholic proves themselves dead wrong once again!

Too bad I am ex-catholic!
 
No need to bash religious beliefs because of what happened. I don't know how disruptive this kid is, but I have seen a lot of parents who cannot control their kids.

If the parents cannot control their kids in church, then they should at least respect the parishioners and leave the building.
 
While I can understand the safety of other parishioners that attends the church, it seems as if the church is trying to an "easy" way out of this? I mean, isn't a church supposed to help people? If they felt the autism boy was in danger, why didn't they try to find resources or therapies or other options to help and to improve the situation with the autism boy?

Now, I don't know how severe the child is but apparently the parents has been having a hard time controlling him. As severe as it is, it is not easy having an autism child. With that, I say it goes for both ways with the parents and the church. It was wrong of the parents to ignore the church's request and it was wrong for the church to try to shun all this out.

But, Of course, there's always more to the story than what the media portrays for.
 
While I can understand the safety of other parishioners that attends the church, it seems as if the church is trying to an "easy" way out of this? I mean, isn't a church supposed to help people? If they felt the autism boy was in danger, why didn't they try to find resources or therapies or other options to help and to improve the situation with the autism boy?

Now, I don't know how severe the child is but apparently the parents has been having a hard time controlling him. As severe as it is, it is not easy having an autism child. With that, I say it goes for both ways with the parents and the church. It was wrong of the parents to ignore the church's request and it was wrong for the church to try to shun all this out.

But, Of course, there's always more to the story than what the media portrays for.

He is not 'in danger', he IS the danger. This is not a 'little boy'. It states he is over six feet tall and 255 pounds. When a person like that throws a 'tantrum', it is not something you can easily quiet or control like you can with a little kid. That person can HURT you. In a serious way.

So don't automatically assume that the church is the major 'bad guy' here just because the guy is autistic.
 
I hate to say this, but if Adam does all those things they said he did in the article, and if he can't control himself, and the parents can't control him, maybe his parents should consider finding a special group home for autistic people or something like that. I'm not really a fan of institutionalizing people at all, but sometimes it is needed. His autism sounds pretty severe. Or, maybe his parents should look into respite care so that Adam has someplace to go while his parents go to church. I don't know.
 
Oh Jeez.. Guess If parent cannot control their son in church, then they should find a special place:( :dunno2:
 
Just read again, interesting.

I have nothing against people believing in any religious. Just that I have my own personal view.

What I think that church should never been in first place dealing something like this.

First of all, I wondering why School, state, and other agency did nothing for him? State should be the first one who would take care of him. Guess that state is too cheap to save money and let cash strapped church people dealing with them. Or that I wondering... since I am parent of a child... that the parent's too afraid to let state take over and lose control over their child? If so, that is understandable but I still think they need to let him go, so that he can get better care and attention.
I dont have much understand of Autism
 
Since I don't know the full story, I will seemake my opinions based on the info available in the article.

Iam inclined to agree with the church to some degree. I have worked in programs where children with severe austism are served and I have seen some staff get injured by their outbursts. Now, the staff are trained to handle these kinds of behaviors while the parishioners and church members are not. Due to that factor, people can get seriously hurt.

If the boy is a danger to himself and others, he needs to be removed. Like if our students become a danger to themselves or others, they will be removed. Everyone's safety comes first. I don't think the church is discriminating against the boy simply because he has austism.

However, I think the actions taken by the church r little too overboard. I agree with Jolie, why can't the church help this family unless it has already been done. If so and the family didn't accept their help then what more can they do?

Like I said, I don't have the full story so it s hard to make jedgements.
 
Diehardbiker is right in my opinion. It is not the church's responsibility to deal with this situation...they can try accommodating, etc. but his behavior needs to be under control for the safety of others. From the article, the DID try to accommodate but the parents refused. :( The parents need to reach out to the state and seek resources to help them and their child.

Autism is a very difficult condition because we know so little about it - the causes, the treatment, the methods of teaching children with autism is so diverse, etc. I have the deepest admiration of parents of children with autism. From reading this article (which is the only information I have to go by, which is weak) - I suspect there's more going on than just autism. The way the parents are handling him (e.g., sitting on him) are inapprorpriate and in fact, making it worse.
 
No need to bash religious beliefs because of what happened. I don't know how disruptive this kid is, but I have seen a lot of parents who cannot control their kids.

If the parents cannot control their kids in church, then they should at least respect the parishioners and leave the building.
:gpost: It is definitely the parents problem to deal with an autistic teen not the church. Lots of people let their children run wild, you just can't do that not in a church, not even in a restaurant.
 
It sounds like itds the parents fault bringing a child. That the parents knows the the child will be danger.It seems like the parents wants someone else to take the blame instead of the parents itself. I wonder why the parents didnt take thier child to see a doctor to see if he can take medication to slow the autism ?? likewise the church has a rite to protect thier customer from danger which I dont blame the church. Its like bringing a bear pet to a church would u scared heheh it depends on the owner how he treats that bear then he will behave around poeple u know. But i get tired of people wants someone else tot take the blame becuz they dont want to geeez .
 
Umm..ya cant take medication to slow Autism. It's called early intervention. why dont you learn to spell..maybe we should critisize you as you cant seem to spell! Sorry this story infuriates me as I have a 4 yr old son with Autism. And no it's not the parents fault that their child has Autism. It is something the child has been born with. And why the hell should the parents not take their child to church? Should we all hide our kids away and make them not be valid members of society just so we can keep the rest of the population happy? I think banning this child from church is downright stupid. Im almost tempted to go and tell the rev to F**k himself! Like if he is disruptive than yes I can understand, maybe it isnt a good place for him to be, but maybe suggest (like other posters have said) of an alternative church where maybe their are other children like him and people may tend to be a little more understanding of the situation. I personally think it was blown out of proportion and he probaby isnt as bad as what this article is saying. People just like to make things worse than they are as they cannot accept that someone else is different than themselves and people are always one to point the finger at the parents and blame, especially old people. I can say this as I have run into this situation and it's always old folks who are frowning and tut tuting at you thinking "why cant they control that child" Being as Autism is on the rise I think people need to educate themselves first. That is why I advocate for my son as there are to many ignorant asses out there who just dont understand.
 
He is not 'in danger', he IS the danger. This is not a 'little boy'. It states he is over six feet tall and 255 pounds. When a person like that throws a 'tantrum', it is not something you can easily quiet or control like you can with a little kid. That person can HURT you. In a serious way.

So don't automatically assume that the church is the major 'bad guy' here just because the guy is autistic.

Exactly. If this child had not been protrayed as a danger to others, as was clearly supported in the longer article, I would say that the church had overstepped their boundaries. However, he has clearly demonstrated that he does pose a potential danger to others, and the priest and the Diocese have the obligation to protect all of the other parishoners. The Church did offerother accommodations and solutions to the problem, and the parents chose not to use those accommodations, and to ignore the safety of others.

The Church, I'm sure, would also ask that a scizophrenic in the middle of a psychotic break not be allowed to endanger others in the congregation. Why? Because someone could be seriously injured or killed accidentally.

They request that crying children be taken outside or into the foyer, as well. Why? So that the congregation is not disturbed.

Individual rights apply only so far as those rights do not endanger another.
 
I think it's very wrong of priest to doing that to the parents of Austistic Boy.

I worked at Group Home in Washignton State. I have one client who is austistic boy. Even, I worked with him every sunday and his mom request him to attend to church no matter what. I admitted to taking him to the church and even he could hurt people. He do have anger problems. He do bite himself, smash on the wall and everything. Include, he's deaf and blind. Even, I thought that priest will kick him out for his behavior since I'm new to the church but I already understood and got used to how his behvaior are... But, I already spoked to the Priest and he says, it don't bother him or anyone int he church. They understand very clearly and they want to continue welcome him to coming no matter what since he's God's kid also. I am very happy that my client is still going to the church no matter what.
 
I hate to say this, but if Adam does all those things they said he did in the article, and if he can't control himself, and the parents can't control him, maybe his parents should consider finding a special group home for autistic people or something like that. I'm not really a fan of institutionalizing people at all, but sometimes it is needed. His autism sounds pretty severe. Or, maybe his parents should look into respite care so that Adam has someplace to go while his parents go to church. I don't know.

Respite care would be an excellent solution. However, it would appear from what was stated in the article that these parents are not open to alternative solutions.
 
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